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TES2 Session 60 June 8, 1964 12/61 (20%) matter permanent properties deterioration growth
– The Early Sessions: Book 2 of The Seth Material
– © 2012 Laurel Davies-Butts
– Session 60 June 8, 1964 9 PM Monday as Instructed

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(By 8:45 Jane was somewhat nervous; but she said that for recent sessions she has not felt as unsettled as she used to.

(Jane began dictating in a normal voice and at a normal rate, but her speed of delivery soon began to slow down, as will be noted, until it became almost painfully slow. The reasons for this will be made clear as the session unfolds. But the amount of material obtained will alone show that Jane spoke very slowly for much of the time. Her pacing remained as usual. Her voice did not change character through the session to speak of, nor did either of us display any hand phenomena.)

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

I prefer that he keep highly informed. His own interests propel him in this direction, and because of the way in which we are working together, it is advantageous for him to become acquainted with as much knowledge in a number of fields as he is capable of assimilating. If we were using the very deep trance state then indeed this would not be necessary, but for your own benefits I prefer as much cooperation on your parts as possible, and like to work with an assimilation of knowledge by the whole self.

[... 8 paragraphs ...]

Matter is continually created, but no particular physical object is in itself continuous. Change in a particular physical object is not change as you conceive it. There is not, for example, one particular physical object that deteriorates with age. There are instead continuous, for now I will say continuous creations, of psychic energy into a physical pattern that appears to hold a more or less rigid appearance. This appearance appears, that is, this physical object appears to change and to age, but the material does neither. It does not exist long enough to do either, for one thing. There is an infinite number or series of creations of matter. The ability of the individual creator of any particular physical form to use psychic energy to control and manipulate causes the outer appearance of deterioration and aging of matter.

Matter itself does not age or deteriorate. This may throw you, but I will prove my case. I will also prove it even in so far as the so-called aging of rock formations and other archeological events are concerned. Matter is created directly from energy on a subconscious level.

[... 4 paragraphs ...]

I wanted to go on while I am getting this through, but will take pity on you both.

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

This may seem like a sideline but it is not. In the painting of a picture, you are actually forming new patterns through which energy can flow into material form. There are reasons, which I will discuss later, why the painting, that is the physical pattern of a painting, may seem to, and often does, exist longer than the man who paints it.

[... 11 paragraphs ...]

It constantly comes more and more into the field, focusing more of itself within it. You have a psychic arrival and departure. As the energy approaches it creates matter, first of all in a rather inadequate, almost plastic fashion. It continually recreates matter as it comes fully within what you call the physical plane, then energy’s construction into matter simply becomes more proficient and focused. But the fetus then is simply not the infant, and the infant is not the adult.

I hope you realize that what we have here is value fulfillment of individualized portions of energy within the physical field, through construction of this energy into matter. But the creation is continuous, like a beam, or rather an endless series of beams, at first weak as they are far off, then stronger, then weak again as they pass away.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

Nevertheless, I will close the session early, as it is certainly an excellent one; and we have finally begun to get near, but hardly into, the heart of the matter—that’s a pun. I enjoy such sessions.

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

(Tuesday 6/9, 8:30 PM: This involved something new for me, and may be significant. First I had my usual thrilling sensation at the suggestion of lightness, once I had attained the desired state of light trance. Then, I became aware that I was watching and listening to a man in a light gray business suit. I saw him from the waist up, from a position just in back of his right side. I saw his profile. He had brown hair combed straight back, almost a double chin, a sharp nose and high forehead, and in his right hand he held a microphone; he was talking into it, giving a lecture on something to do with weights. The figure 700 was used, I recall. I heard his voice, which was pleasant and somewhat deep, quite clearly, and understood his remarks, but again forgot them as quickly as I heard them. I could not tell if he was with others or not.

(However, I then succeeded in doing something I had wanted to do for a long time. I remembered to ask his name, and as I did so I discovered it was no effort at all. The man replied, without turning around, that it was Daniel Murphy. I then asked his age; he said 42. I then told him my name, and he repeated it. After this I believe I asked him to contact me, but this becomes fuzzy and vague. There was more but it was indistinct and is totally forgotten now. But this is the first instance I was able to follow Seth’s advice and attempt to impress my presence upon others when I had the chance.

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