“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The fragments that may develop from it do not make it less. At one time I mentioned massive units or blocks of intelligent energy, pyramids of psychic comprehensions, of which I cannot tell you too much at this time; but perhaps you can begin to perceive now how such comprehensions could be formed.

It has to do with not physical growth, of course, but with psychic fulfillment, which is as you know value fulfillment. We will call this quality-depth (hyphen), and yet it has nothing to do with space. This is a quality existing with assurance of expansion, in terms of value fulfillment.

Here we will most probably run into some difficulty, but I will try to explain what I mean, and will clear up any questions later. As the self has an inner and an outer ego, so also does the inside finally become the outside. Theoretically for example, if followed through, a deep trance leading to a deeper inside so to speak, would bring you ultimately to another outside. The outer ego for example would meet the inner ego, and vice versa.

This is an instance of true traveling, or psychic motion. Now this quality that could be said to be a substitute for your space and time, this quality-depth, represents the perspective in which this sort of psychic traveling or psychic motion, or any psychic action, occurs; and its depth can be understood not in terms of downward action, but perhaps you can comprehend it if you think of a deep trance, for example, as definitely having motion, though the body may be motionless.

But in a trance depth, as in quality-depth, the motion has a direction that cannot be thought of in terms of up or down, north or south, east or west. The motion is action through quality or value dimension. I have been meaning to speak about this. It could easily be called the inner extension of your psychological time, so you will see its importance.

(Break at 9:27. Again for a first break, Jane was fully dissociated. She knew that she was dictating very slowly, she said, yet she was not groping. She felt Seth was searching her vocabulary in order to express himself as best he could. Here she thought that Seth was dealing with a concept that was not suited for expression in words, nor was it meant to be expressed in words. Jane felt that what came through was close enough but still left a lot to be desired.

Whenever dates are mentioned, incidentally, I would suggest caution and attention, regardless of the reason given or the person to whom the date is supposed to be significant. This is good general practice. A few times, because Ruburt was so upset, I managed to console him by saying that he wasn’t pregnant when he rather feared that he might be. But you are not after all supposed to depend upon me, but to develop your own insights, and also to gain from your own mistakes and experience. This is why I do not give you gaudy predictions.

Ruburt is quite free to use the pendulum. This involves something that has nothing to do with me, but is a fairly reliable method of reaching the subconscious. As a rule the answers are dependable, and this is all I will say.

Any serious illness possible or probable in Ruburt’s present existence would have occurred in his youth, at the age of 15, when a severe psychic crisis threatened. A serious illness was possible for you, Joseph, at the age of 33, and was averted. However, in all cases even minor physical nuisances deplete energy. Energy is yours for the asking, as you know, but you must know enough to ask.

A deep feeling of dissatisfaction will show itself in early symptoms of furniture moving; not on a casual and to-be-expected normal scale, but on a truly monumental scale. The aggression however wants to be directed against the living things, and in lieu of angry letters Ruburt finally stops moving furniture and literally shoves himself around.

If I can manage Ruburt then I will have a bit more to say, but only a bit after you take your needed break.

It is more important than you know. Subconsciously like many others you believe that once energy is spent it is gone, and also that you have only some arbitrary amount of energy to be used, after which you will become bankrupt. This is not only a false belief but a dangerous and limiting one.

You both should progress along these lines. In some respects under usual circumstances at least, Ruburt is more proficient than you, but in times of crisis he reverts and runs full steam ahead on limited energy; often quite automatically he transforms available and abundant psychic energy for his own purposes, and later forgets how he has done it.

Too-conscious an attempt will not help, but this material should help. The physical organism does indeed require sleep, but only the physical organism with its brain. The mind is continually in vigilance. Nevertheless when you are more proficient you will, with the aid of automatic use of psychological time, be able to operate much more effectively, and be upheld by energy without strain.

(Seth’s point here is certainly well taken, and Jane and I have often discussed her phenomenal physical performance during sessions. If one were to set out consciously determined to go walking for a period of two hours, twice a week without fail, he might approximate somewhat what is involved. But Jane, while thus engaged, is also busy translating Seth’s messages and speaking them aloud. So a more accurate performance might be for one to take a two-hour walk, talking constantly the while; the combination interspersed with perhaps three short breaks.)

Your father in that life tried to control the horse but its forefoot came down upon the nail. Your father planked the hot shoe upon the foot and you screamed, thinking of the horse’s pain. You were three. When you stepped upon the nail in California, the memory leaped from the depths of the third level of the subconscious, through shock, into the uppermost or first subconscious level.

(While giving me the above data, Jane as Seth asked me if I was tired, and I said no although my hand was somewhat cramped. The incident referred to above took place in Santa Monica, California in I believe September of 1956. Jane and I were visiting her father there, who was building some apartments. The nail I stepped on penetrated rather deeply through the sole of my shoe, but was not very painful; but since it was rusty we thought it best to get a tetanus shot. We went into the house to wash the foot, and much to my surprise I fainted.

(Before giving me the shot in his office, the doctor gave me a skin test for sensitivity, which proved negative. But three days later while driving in downtown Los Angeles I was seized with severe stomach cramps. I barely made it home, and spent the next month recuperating from a violent reaction to the horse-serum-based shot. I could not walk for perhaps a week. I now must carry a warning card in my wallet, and have been told another such shot would probably be fatal.

(The hypnosis session referred to here by Seth took place some months ago, and the information given here in this session does not contradict any other information I gave while hypnotized. Jane has the event on tape and is using it in her book on ESP. We have often wondered about the validity of the material I gave during the hypnosis session; we have meant to probe further but have not had the time.)

(I asked Jane if she wanted to end the session, but she merely shrugged. I could see that she was somewhat tired; her voice was getting hoarse also, but since I hoped we could get a little more information to verify the hypnosis experiment, for use in Jane’s book, I decided to continue.

Here we see patterns re-enacting. Ruburt is all right, although he will try and block me when he can. Of course he knew his present mother earlier, but only as an acquaintance. The familiarity drew him this time and that is all.

You became disillusioned with your wife. You had a brief affair with the sister, that is Ruburt’s present mother, but she was even then like a vulture and scared you off. She never forgave you for breaking with her.

You were ordained under peculiar circumstances, not being educated in orthodox terms. When you migrated to Boston you took the name of Drake. I do not know the first name. You were young when you migrated, and the ship was three days late. Smallpox broke out in the hold. A captain took you under his wing. You did not sign on as you should, and were discovered; but you reminded him of a nephew, last name Phillips, and he protected you. There was also a girl on board.

(Sun. 6/7, 3:30 AM: Had been asleep but woke up. While in desired state I then saw very vividly and with some duration the head and shoulders of a handsome man of about 40, facing me but not looking at me. First his face looked to my right, then the head swung slowly to my left. This was quite vivid; there were highlights of blue and white in his hair, which was black; I also remember the highlights on the side of his face, and the skin texture. He wore a blue or black suit coat, white shirt, dark tie. Face was animated; he could have been speaking to others. I also believe I heard some voices.

(Jane: Sat. 6/6, sometime in the AM: I wanted to get a pair of stockings but didn’t know whether the store I had in mind, the Walnut St. Market, carried them. I then saw very clearly in my mind a rack of stockings in the store. When Rob and I went to the store, the stockings in a rack were there just as I had seen them.

(Jane: Sun. 6/7, 11:15 AM: I was reading some pages from some kind of psychic journal, dated sometime in 1962. I could read the material very plainly, but forgot the contents on arising.)