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The bounds amount to bonds in some cases. He is given to fervent allegiances, and often should listen to the dictates of inner discipline. The cruelty which he inflicted upon others during the period of the Inquisition was inflicted with the most pure of purposes. He believed firmly that he was following the dictates of God. More cruelties have been effected by principled men than unprincipled men would ever dream.

I would like to make a remark for your benefit, Joseph. The experience during psychological time, involving your own image by a body of water, was a most valid clairvoyant experience, in that you have not as yet visited this particular spot, and it was a glimpse into what you prefer to call the future.

The name of the relative is Ruth. I presume the name makes sense to you. Ruburt loves to block such personal data. However, I see that he let it come through undistorted. Bravo, Ruburt. I could hope that this would continue.

I suggest that you take a break, as there is much material that I would like to cover this evening.

(My confusion over the name of my cousin Ruth stemmed from the fact that when Seth referred to “your town” I thought of Sayre, PA, where I grew up, instead of Elmira, 18 miles away, where Ruth grew up. In 1935 I was 15 years old. Ruth being a few years younger, her physical dimensions at that time would closely match the young girl I drew in my pen and ink sketch of the experience. Also, the girl I saw was a blonde, and Ruth is a blonde.

(Seth stated that Jim Tennant is one of the group he expects to gather around Jane and me. Jim T. reported that this afternoon, upon being invited to attend a session by Jim B., he felt his scalp distinctly crawl on three separate occasions; lifting up as though it would detach itself. Jim T. stated that his mother is quite clairvoyant, that often when he is ill, for instance, she will get in touch with him before he has time to inform her of his illness.

If you trusted only your so-called scientific method, then you would not admit that you have ever even had a psychological experience, since it takes up no space and exists independently of time. Nevertheless, no one will argue that a psychological experience has no validity. A psychological experience is so valid that it can change the course, not only of one life, but of many.

You will be merely doing what you have been doing all along, but with the aid of the ego you will be able to prove the extent of your achievement. If everyone on your plane were suddenly to believe that the physical world would end at a particular time, then so it would, you would simply cease your idea constructions. In our experiments therefore, we will have to begin with a strong belief that what we are setting out to achieve can in fact be achieved.

As far as witnesses are concerned, and as far as the wife is concerned, I would suggest that you meet upon another evening, when a session is not due to begin with, and leave the matter to Ruburt. As far as I am concerned, I would quite welcome another young woman. Nevertheless, the overall personality is what matters, and since Ruburt delivers the sessions I will leave the matter to him.

It is much better if you proceed surely, fairly confidently. But excess enthusiasm can lead to fanaticism, and this at all costs must be avoided. The two witnesses this evening have worked out very well. It is possible that the wife in question may work out well also, but the approach to her should not be overly impassioned, as this would be a mistake.

There is no easy way that is effective in the long run, and if I seem heavy-handed in this respect, it is because I would rather have slow and certain results than flashy displays that cannot be maintained. This is a lifetime project, and I mean Ruburt and Joseph are getting their effects now through previous hard work and discipline. I will simply not have Ruburt levitate six feet into the air, nor give any clairvoyant displays, unless there is a deep purpose served. Our guest should not be impatient. Nothing will be gained that way.

I would be doing you a disservice if I did. The enthusiasm is excellent. However, it should be channeled, and to some degree held within bounds for your own benefit. I do not mean to sound harsh. My feelings are not harsh. I have the advantage of knowing the background of your previous personalities.

(End at 11:40. Jane was dissociated as usual. Jim Beckett had departed at last break. We discussed with Jim Tennant our reasons for our very cautious approach to and with the Seth material, stressing our feeling that it was best to be on the very conservative side as far as claims, etc., went. We invited him to attend future sessions; and it was becoming more and more apparent that we would have to make some kind of arrangement for others to be able to read the material, without letting it out of our hands. We are of course most anxious that nothing happens to the one copy we have for ourselves.

(The stronger waves seemed to grow progressively stronger however. Once I “saw” a great light, as if perhaps the sun had come out suddenly. [It is a very dark, rainy day.] This thrilling continued, till it was scarcely bearable. I felt that I would literally be carried away, or swept away. At no time was I concerned for my own safety. The experience was amazingly pleasurable. I had suggested in the beginning that I snap out of the trance state by noon, and had set the alarm. It did not ring, however, and I became aware that the time set for the trance was over.