“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I did not find it of much real purpose to give reviews during our sessions, particularly since new witnesses will come. There will have to be some method, and I leave this up to you, Joseph, some method of filling witnesses in on previous sessions. This should be taken care of in some manner.

We have spoken of these other layers. For the edification of our esteemed visitors, I will quickly mention them. Beneath personal subconscious material you will find data, free, dealing with racial memories which will be of great benefit to psychologists and sociologists. Beneath this you will find material that is concerned with the beginnings of the species as a whole; and beneath this, and connected to it by the emotions, you will come to the boundaries of the inner self.

Therefore, the proof in our experiments will be valid in the terms that a psychological experience is valid; and more, because by its results it will make itself known. In space travel for example, you are not going to be seen flying through the air like some gray-haired eagle. Your journey will simply not be through space, since space is a camouflage.

When you realize this, then our energy transformation and our change of molecular structure comes into play. There is no barrier of space to be overcome, there is merely a transformation, first of all of psychic energy, and then because you are on your plane bound to many camouflage concepts, there will be a secondary reconstruction of physical image.

I suggest your break, and if I seem to be ignoring our guests, I was never much of a party boy, although I have my moments. They are extremely welcome, and I expected them both.

These images continue to work out problems that you have set for them, in the same manner that you work out problems as your present personality in one incarnation after another. These dream images also have their own free will, within limits. I have explained the reality behind all art. I have explained that the energy contained therein is regenerating, and although held within certain limits is constantly active. The same applies to the dream world, and in our experiments the same will also apply.

You will be merely doing what you have been doing all along, but with the aid of the ego you will be able to prove the extent of your achievement. If everyone on your plane were suddenly to believe that the physical world would end at a particular time, then so it would, you would simply cease your idea constructions. In our experiments therefore, we will have to begin with a strong belief that what we are setting out to achieve can in fact be achieved.

This in many instances will be distasteful to many, but all physical constructions are transformations of energy made manifest as idea, and then constructed into physical reality. Without the idea you have no physical reality, and without belief that our aims are possible, there will be no achievement. The achievement gained, however, will then provide its own physical proofs.

Your animals possess a closer bond by means of the inner senses. Remember our analogy of the spider and its web. The web exists both in time and space, as all physical constructions do. That is why I have said that your universe does not exist in the same fashion as the web, simply because it is not bound by space or time. The universe expands, again, in terms of value fulfillment, and in ways which your outer senses cannot comprehend.

There is no easy way that is effective in the long run, and if I seem heavy-handed in this respect, it is because I would rather have slow and certain results than flashy displays that cannot be maintained. This is a lifetime project, and I mean Ruburt and Joseph are getting their effects now through previous hard work and discipline. I will simply not have Ruburt levitate six feet into the air, nor give any clairvoyant displays, unless there is a deep purpose served. Our guest should not be impatient. Nothing will be gained that way.

I will go into our guest’s background more fully at another session, and also into the enthusiasm which is so refreshing and yet so in need of discipline. This enthusiasm has caused you difficulties in the past, and I will not be, I simply will not be, the means of allowing you to let it operate without using discipline and discretion.

My dear friends, I hesitate as always to end a session; and again, I could go on for hours. I promised you our party session and we will have it before long. I enjoy your rainy night. My regards are with you both, and with my usual deep regret I will end the session. Ruburt came through for me very well. My best regards also to your visitor, and my heartiest good evening to you all.

(End at 11:40. Jane was dissociated as usual. Jim Beckett had departed at last break. We discussed with Jim Tennant our reasons for our very cautious approach to and with the Seth material, stressing our feeling that it was best to be on the very conservative side as far as claims, etc., went. We invited him to attend future sessions; and it was becoming more and more apparent that we would have to make some kind of arrangement for others to be able to read the material, without letting it out of our hands. We are of course most anxious that nothing happens to the one copy we have for ourselves.

(Jane then saw a young boy, pulling two other boys on a sled. She immediately knew it to be Curtis Lundgren, as a boy. She has not seen Curtis Lundgren, who is now a grown man, since our marriage ten years ago. The sight of the boy immediately confused Jane, since of course she knew Curtis L. to be grown by now. Yet the neighborhood was real. She thought: “Why, this isn’t today—yet it must be. Lundgrens live right around the corner.”