“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The personality has endeavored to right old wrongs, and has succeeded to a great degree, but at the risk of sacrificing inner spontaneity, and even at the risk of losing the very authoritative aspects of his nature, so that there is still a tendency to follow rather than to lead; simply because in the period of the Inquisition he was in a place of authority, he led; and he led men into atrocities committed in the fine name of principle and religion. For this reason, while he is still tempted to lead, he allows himself to lead only in small ways, not trusting yet the judgment which at one time betrayed him.

There religious interests, therefore, are repeated in the present personality, but efforts are made to tie these ideas into the world of so-called reality. The interest in extrasensory perception, the interest in science and religion, all represent efforts on his part to tie various of his older personalities together, and to learn from their mistakes.

The experiments will be many. Hypnotism, as I have mentioned, will be a basic tool in the beginning. Hypnotism, you see, is not a camouflage tool, but a psychological tool which is therefore uncamouflaged, and relatively undistorted.

When tests are conducted, and this will take a while, but when tests are conducted in laboratories, using the trance, the controlled and disciplined trance, as a tool and an instrument, then very quickly you will be able to delve beneath personal subconscious material to other layers.

The light trance, again, is necessary only for a time, and theoretically it is not necessary at all. The only necessity here is that you permit yourself not to displace the ego, but more, to enable yourself to look within and past the ego.

I suggest that you take a break; and one of these nights I will break you all up, but we shall certainly save the pieces. Perhaps between us we can all put them together again, in a most splendid fashion.

If you trusted only your so-called scientific method, then you would not admit that you have ever even had a psychological experience, since it takes up no space and exists independently of time. Nevertheless, no one will argue that a psychological experience has no validity. A psychological experience is so valid that it can change the course, not only of one life, but of many.

In your dreams, when the conscious ego is stilled, you often and continually work this transformation, and we have gone into this problem. What we are concerned with is this reconstruction, but this reconstruction in durable enough terms so that communication can take place.

Even in dreams, this communication has taken place, but we, we want much more. We want such a physical reconstruction of image in a purposeful manner, at a given place and time, on your plane. This is far from impossible, but it requires discipline and training, along with the freedom which more and more Ruburt is able to bring to these sessions.

No thought or idea is extinguished, and they all follow the laws which I am in the process of giving you. The growth of an idea takes up no space. I have explained that the expanding universe theory contains gross error, since the universe, the real universe, is expanding; but it is expanding in terms of value fulfillment and has nothing to do with expansion in space.

You do transform ideas into image patterns, but they do not have durability or continuity on your plane. They do however, possess durability and continuity on another plane with which you are subconsciously familiar. These images are as independent of your conscious control as the inner workings of your own physical body are beyond your conscious control.

You will be merely doing what you have been doing all along, but with the aid of the ego you will be able to prove the extent of your achievement. If everyone on your plane were suddenly to believe that the physical world would end at a particular time, then so it would, you would simply cease your idea constructions. In our experiments therefore, we will have to begin with a strong belief that what we are setting out to achieve can in fact be achieved.

This in many instances will be distasteful to many, but all physical constructions are transformations of energy made manifest as idea, and then constructed into physical reality. Without the idea you have no physical reality, and without belief that our aims are possible, there will be no achievement. The achievement gained, however, will then provide its own physical proofs.

It is much better if you proceed surely, fairly confidently. But excess enthusiasm can lead to fanaticism, and this at all costs must be avoided. The two witnesses this evening have worked out very well. It is possible that the wife in question may work out well also, but the approach to her should not be overly impassioned, as this would be a mistake.

This whole matter is to be determined through training and through discipline. I will not give you signs, nor will I perform tricks in order to convince anyone. The method is in the text. Such signs as I give in these sessions will be for my own purposes, and they will never be purely for display, but for their value as teaching demonstrations.

Those who prove interested in these sessions, and who become part of a group, will be sustained; but always I will work with you in the development of your inner senses, without the display of fireworks for display’s sake alone.

Within the boundaries of discipline we shall have, here, freedoms that are relatively unknown in your world today. But we must avoid psychic avalanches. Because the possibilities are so unlimited, we must be sure of ourselves at every point along the way. The material must be read. The experiments in the material must be tried.

(On April 30, 1964, Thursday, Jane had a most interesting experience, at 11:30 AM. Trying psychological time, she suddenly realized that she was in her old environment, Middle Avenue, in Saratoga Springs, NY. She saw the street she had grown up on, very clearly and in a way that she could not do in a dream. She stood in front of her house, but with her back to it. It was winter; the ground was covered with packed snow; so were the roads, although there were no heaping snow banks.

(My eyes were closed. My body began to feel extremely light, but a thrilling enveloped me. My forehead felt extremely cool, as if bonds of coolness went all around my head. The thrilling enveloped me completely, but in waves of stronger, then less intensity.

(Also I wondered about the advisability of going further when no one was around. Rob was at work. I was tempted to go ahead anyhow, but instead I counted to three and came out. I felt terrific, refreshed, dazzled. I wondered, because of the intensity of the feeling, if this is what is meant by ecstasy.)