“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(While napping at about 4:00 PM, for a very brief moment Jane experienced the feeling she has described as infinite blackness, or enlargement. See page 309 [in Volume One of The Early Sessions]. It came while she was still awake; she had just relaxed and her eyes were closed. This evening Willy behaved admirably, sleeping through the whole session. It was a warm and windy spring night, very beautiful, and during the session one of the living room windows was open.

I am pleased that our practical exercises outside of class so to speak, are coming along so well. For one thing our Ruburt is a Doubting Thomas from way back, and evidence of the inner senses that are experienced outside of our sessions help along these lines. I do not want gullible ninnies, however I certainly would enjoy being taken at my word occasionally. Though the shock might be too much for even my constitution.

Ruburt was right. We shall call the eighth inner sense the sense of disentanglement; and it is one of the most basic inner senses. Complete disentanglement comes rarely on your plane, although it is possible to achieve it with training. Variations occur but usually some remnant of camouflage data is retained.

Even here there are gradations. Consider again Ruburt in one room with his eyes closed, “seeing” the time by a clock in the other room. This clairvoyance is of the easier variety, and yet represents an important step in his development, and should in your own. He was concerned with a camouflage idea, that of time, and clock time at that, the clock itself being a camouflage. Clairvoyantly he merely disentangled himself enough to ignore some camouflage in order to perceive camouflage that lay behind it, and this is a necessary first step.

Even for example, levitation is involved with camouflage to a large degree, in that the camouflage physical body itself rises, but we are still here using the camouflage physical form. Traveling without the camouflage physical form is a giant step, of course, but a possible one according to your development. Here you are traveling however through camouflage space. It is very difficult on your level to do without any camouflage, and yet it can be done; and here again the use of psychological time is extremely important, since when psychological time is utilized to its fullest extent, then camouflage becomes lessened to an almost astounding degree.

The universe is expanding in the way that a dream expands. In other words this expansion has nothing to do with your (underline) idea of space. The expansion, in a most basic manner, is more like the expansion of an idea. It has nothing to do with space or time in the manner in which you are accustomed to think of them. I told you earlier that your scientist’s idea of an expanding universe was in error, although in one important sense the universe was expanding, and this is what I referred to.

Take two paintings of the same shape and size; that is, two paintings that take up the same amount of space in your universe. One painting is extremely crude and poorly done. The other painting not only seems of superior quality, but also appears to undergo a continual transformation while still taking up the same amount of space.

(Break at 9:58. Jane was dissociated—way out, she said. Also her hands felt fat again. She wears two rings, one on each fourth finger. Both came off easily, normally. Now she could not remove her wedding ring at all; the other ring finally came off at the expense of a bruised knuckle.

Before I answer the question that you voiced during break, Joseph, let me continue first along the lines of our discussion. Again, the dream world, which is a very vivid one and a valid one, does not take up any space at all. It is also free to a very large degree of your physical time, but it does exist in the climate or environment of psychological time.

Your certainly cannot pinpoint a dream location, even if the location corresponds to a familiar one in the camouflage universe. The dream itself is not experienced in the specific camouflage location. The body lies in its bed. Though you recognize in a dream the complete furnishings of an actual house, still the dreamer lies in his bed. The two locations, the dream location and the camouflage location, appear the same but they are not the same.

One takes up space in your universe and the other does not. The universe expands in the manner that a dream expands, taking up no camouflage space. This does not mean that there is no growth involved in the expansion of the universe. This does not imply that there is no movement. It simply implies an existence and an expansion of a qualitative manner, beyond your present measurements or complete comprehension.

As far as Ruburt’s fat hands and your own are concerned, this is in a very limited manner a hint of the qualities of extension that can be expected. This is of an entirely different kind of experience, having nothing to do with our discussion immediately previous. This extension involves a reaching out of tissue capsule. The degree is rather limited, the opposite experience being one of contraction. This can be compared most clearly to a pulsation, or really a beat that can follow a more or less regular rhythm.

The inner senses provide their own “transportation,” and put that in quotes. Transportation as such is valid only within a space framework and within a time concept, such as those on your own plane. The “transportation” (in quotes) of the inner senses consists mainly of what you might call a changing of frequencies or vibrations or pulsations, a transformation of vitality-form from one particular pattern or aspect to another.

The movement through space is a distortion. I expect to say much more about this in further sessions, as it is extremely important; and you can see now perhaps why our eighth sense, disentanglement, is so important, since the inner self must disentangle itself from a particular camouflage before it can change. It must ignore, so to speak, one set of camouflage and be able to either adopt another smoothly or to dispense with camouflage entirely.

The grouping of inner senses with which we are now concerned deal with the disentanglement of one set of camouflage patterns and the taking up of another set. The groupings of inner senses most dependent upon the use of psychological time are those which involve a nearly complete disentanglement from camouflage pattern, without taking on other patterns, and these are perhaps the most important because they come closer to the direct experience of unveiled reality.

Incidentally, though I promised, didn’t I, that I wouldn’t meddle, I do think that your idea, camping weekends during the summer, is an excellent one. And also that you have made a good decision as far as Artistic is concerned, particularly in that you requested more money. You have to be able to afford all the paper to record our sessions.

(This is another question I like to throw at Seth, and it’s another one he has yet to answer.)