“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Even here there are gradations. Consider again Ruburt in one room with his eyes closed, “seeing” the time by a clock in the other room. This clairvoyance is of the easier variety, and yet represents an important step in his development, and should in your own. He was concerned with a camouflage idea, that of time, and clock time at that, the clock itself being a camouflage. Clairvoyantly he merely disentangled himself enough to ignore some camouflage in order to perceive camouflage that lay behind it, and this is a necessary first step.

The universe is expanding in the way that a dream expands. In other words this expansion has nothing to do with your (underline) idea of space. The expansion, in a most basic manner, is more like the expansion of an idea. It has nothing to do with space or time in the manner in which you are accustomed to think of them. I told you earlier that your scientist’s idea of an expanding universe was in error, although in one important sense the universe was expanding, and this is what I referred to.

Your own dream world expands constantly. Your ideas expand constantly, but your ideas have nothing to do with space, and the manner in which the universe constantly expands has nothing to do with your idea of space. True space, fifth dimensional space, has abilities of expansion that do not need space, not in your terms.

The walls of the room do not push back to receive a great idea, for example, and again, the expansion of the universe from the inside does not imply a pushing out or an inflation.

Your scientists’ idea of an expanding universe is so dependent upon your own limited theories that it becomes very difficult to make the matter plain. Again I entreat you to practice with the use of psychological time, for here the inner senses are given the greatest freedom from camouflage. And experiencing the resulting inner expansion, you will perhaps come somewhat closer to the ideas involved in our real expanding universe.

Incidentally, though I promised, didn’t I, that I wouldn’t meddle, I do think that your idea, camping weekends during the summer, is an excellent one. And also that you have made a good decision as far as Artistic is concerned, particularly in that you requested more money. You have to be able to afford all the paper to record our sessions.