“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(“How about my dream of the tree branch falling? Any connection there with the inner senses?”)

The dream of the tree? I do not know if it was merely a dream or not at this point. It was not the same sort of experience as the other you had in connection with a tree. I simply do not know if that particular limb will fall within a specific time. You may have seen its ultimate falling, but this was not the same kind of experience as Ruburt’s seeing the clock.

(We discussed some recent dreams we had had; and while doing so Jane stood up and abruptly began dictating again. Her voice was normal, her delivery slow. Resume at 9:30.)

The universe is expanding in the way that a dream expands. In other words this expansion has nothing to do with your (underline) idea of space. The expansion, in a most basic manner, is more like the expansion of an idea. It has nothing to do with space or time in the manner in which you are accustomed to think of them. I told you earlier that your scientist’s idea of an expanding universe was in error, although in one important sense the universe was expanding, and this is what I referred to.

Your own dream world expands constantly. Your ideas expand constantly, but your ideas have nothing to do with space, and the manner in which the universe constantly expands has nothing to do with your idea of space. True space, fifth dimensional space, has abilities of expansion that do not need space, not in your terms.

Before I answer the question that you voiced during break, Joseph, let me continue first along the lines of our discussion. Again, the dream world, which is a very vivid one and a valid one, does not take up any space at all. It is also free to a very large degree of your physical time, but it does exist in the climate or environment of psychological time.

Your certainly cannot pinpoint a dream location, even if the location corresponds to a familiar one in the camouflage universe. The dream itself is not experienced in the specific camouflage location. The body lies in its bed. Though you recognize in a dream the complete furnishings of an actual house, still the dreamer lies in his bed. The two locations, the dream location and the camouflage location, appear the same but they are not the same.

One takes up space in your universe and the other does not. The universe expands in the manner that a dream expands, taking up no camouflage space. This does not mean that there is no growth involved in the expansion of the universe. This does not imply that there is no movement. It simply implies an existence and an expansion of a qualitative manner, beyond your present measurements or complete comprehension.

The dream analogy is also very helpful here, and I suggest that you read it carefully.

In some ways you see, your dream world is actually much closer to the direct experience of reality than is your waking world, where the operation of the inner senses is shielded so from your own awareness. This is not to say that the dream world is more important to you in your present situation, merely that it contains more truth about the source of your own existence.