“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You can, or you will be able to, travel within your own camouflage universe. There are other intelligent identities in it and they are on your own plane. This is travel along what we may call for simplicity’s sake a horizontal level.

The inhabitants of the flying saucers are not of your own plane. I have mentioned the struggle of form involved. You will have to remember in any of the discussions along these lines that your physical constructions simply do not exist except on your own plane. Other constructions exist simultaneously with your own, of an entirely different nature, also however on what you may call a horizontal plane. But you will never find them in a spaceship.

I speak in terms of vertical and horizontal only to make things easier for you. As far as the immediately-previous material is concerned, I let Ruburt in on the vertical so to speak. There was on his part a direct experience of my emotional vitality.

(Break at 11:07. Jane tapped on my desk to make emphasis for the last line of her delivery. She was dissociated as usual. She said that the last two monologues found her way out; she did not remember pacing, smoking, sipping drinks, etc. She reported that just as her delivery ended, she had another mental picture. This time she saw herself in the enlarged kitchen, looking out of a horizontal-type window at the river.