“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

It should be obvious that although an idea is born in time, after its conception it is free from time in a way that a spider’s web can never be free from time. To the extent that a construction exists as camouflage, to that extent it is bound by and vulnerable to physical laws.

The portrait that you sent to the gallery is evocative. It continues to grow. It is not completely at the mercy of a completed camouflage. The whole self is never completely constructed on your plane. At best it finds expression now and then. A camouflage plane, merely by being what it is, makes it impossible for the whole self to find expression. There is almost hypnotic focus of energy for a particular time for a particular reason.

Your plane is a training place in the use of manipulation of energy. Your plane seems to deal with cause and effect, but this is in itself a necessary camouflage. In actuality there is no cause and effect as you think of it. There is only spontaneity. For a particular interval you must be taught as if there were cause and effect, so that the result of spontaneity would not end up as chaos. This statement may seem contradictory but later you will see that it is not.

Now that we have briefly discussed the meaning of a tissue capsule I will go into the seventh inner sense a bit more deeply. This sense allows for an expansion or contraction of the tissue capsule. Theoretically there is no limit to the contraction or expansion allowed, but practically there are usually definite limitations.

I am laughing because they fly through, in your terms, the very core of what you presume to call solid earth, which is not solid to them at all. And in certain instances as you attempt space travel, you will travel through what inhabitants on another plane will think of as their own particular “solid”—in quotes—and you will never know the difference.

Now this does not mean that a stationary body of any kind cannot materialize itself upon another plane. And if it does, it of necessity must in some manner surround itself with the constructions or camouflage of the particular plane which it attempts to enter. This takes a high level of inner development.

The inhabitants of the flying saucers are not of your own plane. I have mentioned the struggle of form involved. You will have to remember in any of the discussions along these lines that your physical constructions simply do not exist except on your own plane. Other constructions exist simultaneously with your own, of an entirely different nature, also however on what you may call a horizontal plane. But you will never find them in a spaceship.

Scientists will begin to look for easier methods, and believe it or not, the first really important discovery will be made by an orthodox scientist out of pure desperation. The scientific communities are even now being forced to consider the possibilities of telepathy as a means of communication, and they will be forced further and further along these lines.

It is very possible that you might (underline) end up in what you intend as a space venture only to discover that you have “traveled” (in quotes) to another plane. But at first you will not know the difference.

(Break at 11:07. Jane tapped on my desk to make emphasis for the last line of her delivery. She was dissociated as usual. She said that the last two monologues found her way out; she did not remember pacing, smoking, sipping drinks, etc. She reported that just as her delivery ended, she had another mental picture. This time she saw herself in the enlarged kitchen, looking out of a horizontal-type window at the river.

If there is, and there is, stupidity and ignorance and idiotic unfounded pride and rationalizations, nevertheless there is also, at least occasionally, good intent and appreciation. I know that you are aware of the dangers involved in projecting your own fears and irritations upon others. There is always and oftentimes a justifiable tendency to feel unappreciated, and therefore to look for chances to prove this lack of appreciation, so that it is often mistakenly projected on remarks or actions of others. Oftentimes such remarks and actions are the result of the other person’s own ignorance, and actually not directed at you personally.

If your prefer we will end the session. Otherwise take a brief break. And may I congratulate you in a backhanded fashion for having a full session this evening. Triev was a nice place.

5,000 approximately. Actually it was between 5,000 and 15,000—no more than 15,000. Do you want to end the session?

Well, with regrets I will end the session. My pie eyes, a fond and most hearty good night. I’ve had fun with you in my fashion.

(End at 11:44. Jane was dissociated as usual. (But as it developed the surprises for the evening were not yet over. No sooner had the session ended than I noticed that my hands felt “fat.” This is the feeling Jane has mentioned so often. I found myself rubbing my hands together, subjectively aware of a swollen feeling in them as we talked after the session. The sensation began in both index fingers, then spread across the knuckles, down into the fingers, and into the palms. When I made fists there was a stretching and thick feeling in them. They felt alien. It was not painful in any way, merely a most intriguing feeling of engorgement. My index fingers especially appeared to be larger. I wear a ring on the fourth finger of my left hand, but unfortunately did not think to see if I could remove it.