“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

The wind knows the tree. The tree feels the wind. It knows it is not the wind, but only feels the wind. Likewise Ruburt feels me but is not me. I may be a big wind, but I am not her big wind.

This naturally is an answer again to Ruburt’s constant questioning. Sometimes, without your confidence, Joseph, I would certainly have a difficult time trying to get through to Ruburt. He is however under a considerable strain, as undoubtedly he has told you. The ego rears its head, in this case a rather attractive head, and the ego makes its protests.

There is on Ruburt’s part a fear of becoming overly involved, and there is no basis here for any such danger. The wind is the wind irregardless of the branches through which it blows, and I am, irregardless of the subconscious mind in which or through which I appear. This should not need repeating. Obviously however I must repeat it constantly.

The American Society for Psychic Research will give you greater benefits I believe than the people at Duke, in this particular instance. I was not aware through Ruburt’s subconscious mind of the Society when Duke was mentioned earlier in these sessions. In the long run you are both better off that Ruburt’s publishing house did not take her book at this time. Incidentally, Ruburt is learning some inner confidence as far as depending upon his inner resources in the handling of problems in ordinary and professional life.

I have mentioned before that there is no invasion of any kind in these sessions. Ruburt merely allowed himself to recognize my existence. Obviously, I exist whether he recognizes me or not. Nor, and this is strictly for the record, since I know that you both understand this, nor am I any so-called spirit.

I do not know specific people, but I will improve upon these matters as our grand duchess lowers her guard. I am quite dependent upon your Ruburt-Jane, not in my own perceptions but in my ability to communicate them to you. The whole problem lies here, but we are making strides, and we are making them despite some personal temporary setbacks, when Ruburt reads a book that makes him worry about these sessions. Then all three of us work twice as hard for the same results.

I do not believe though I am not certain that Ruburt would go along, certainly not in such a positive manner, if it were not for your acceptance.

I do not think you are pushing her, nor am I. It is known however that a feeling of affirmation and confidence is indispensable in any such circumstances. The tricky thing here is that a plus expectancy and inner confidence always brings the best results with the least effort. Ruburt is attracted by and yet doubtful of his own abilities. This is based upon the personal feelings of Ruburt, who is a woman now and does not wish to appear flighty or hysteric.

You however are not so afraid of your own abilities. I am speaking now of psychic abilities and the reason is again personal, since you have been aware of them in a somewhat different manner. You appear to others as dependable, responsible and disciplined. Ruburt, with a different appearance and with different personal background, particularly involving his mother, has been fearful of displaying characteristics that he would consider emotional because the emotional is such a part of his personality, and there has been a distrust here of the strong parts of his personality.

I believe that it will. Confidence should increase with each session. I have no control over exterior circumstances that affect you, however. Ruburt naturally can learn and is learning to control his responses to such conditions, and incidentally this week he has made a few strides as far as the quiet times he has spent in using psychological time.

I mentioned in an earlier session that Ruburt helps in reassembling me, and here your affirmation, Joseph, is a great aid.

Yes. A witness now and then would probably also help Ruburt’s confidence, if you know of any persons.

I am giving you data in my own way, somewhat conservatively compared with what you might want, rather than risk any more distortions than absolutely necessary. But we will progress and as a rule I prefer that Ruburt does not know many of my intentions, as he did not know during the incidents of telepathy with your John-Philip, since I do not want him to set up guards in advance.

If Ruburt were going into very deep trance states such precautions would not be necessary. I prefer this sort of give and take however, which means that in many instances we must go slower, but we will be more sure of our results.

If at any time in the future there is even the necessity for a deeper trance on Ruburt’s part, I will let you know at the time and there will be nothing to worry about. But as a rule this will not be the case, and at all times Ruburt can use his own volition, giving or not giving his permission. This should relieve your minds on this point.

(“I was thinking that you have control of the trance state then, with Ruburt’s permission.”)

Always with Ruburt’s permission, and for that matter indirectly with your permission, for if Ruburt sensed you were against such a circumstance he would not give permission. There is here a gestalt and a delicate balance among us.

I do not bring about the trance state in the manner of which you are speaking. Ruburt switches another channel on, through which my essence can enter more readily. There is the problem here of my entry also into your conscious minds. This does certainly involve a looking inward on Ruburt’s part, but it is not self-hypnosis in the terms usually spoken of, merely a focusing upon an objective inner stimulus in much the same manner that you focus upon an outside camouflage stimulus.

Ruburt received the information and also ignored it. Ruburt also received information which he distorted about the Kennedy assassination. If you will both practice correct use of psychological time you will greatly aid such inner data.

The Kennedy material was not distorted in these sessions, though some parts of the Oswald material had small unimportant distortions due to Ruburt’s tendency to compare Oswald’s mother with his own present mother. The distortion was slight.

Any materializations by the way, returning to an offshoot of our earlier discussion, are at best the sort of thing involved as with Ruburt’s deep voice. That is, they represent rather than are, on your terms. They cannot exist in duration upon your level for any long periods. They are an attempt to reproduce a camouflage pattern or to approximate such a pattern. As such they make quite an effect upon your level, but they are always reassemblies and never are they the actual reappearance of the exact camouflage as it may once have existed upon your level.

No, for your benefit and Ruburt’s.

Your divider is an excellent camouflage pattern. In case you wondered Ruburt’s weekend fling with the furniture was a result of various things—an inner, unrecognized knowledge that her publisher would put off the book for now, and a burst of doubt over these sessions coupled with worries concerning your parents.

Your personality will also grow through such contacts. I hesitate to point this out, or rather Ruburt is hesitating about letting me point this out, but your present father’s personality would not have been half as hampered had he allowed it such contact. You do not have to fear heredity here of course, but rather examples received from him when you were very young.

All in all a splendid session. I’ve been attempting to get the point across about your father’s example now for three sessions, and finally Ruburt let me make it.