“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(I would like to ask Seth if I was using my inner senses during the following episode, without being aware that I was doing so.

I do have a structure nevertheless, and I can change or interchange the components of that structure so as to appear or operate under vastly different conditions. During these sessions I use my basic energy components in a different manner than I would under other circumstances. In other words, I change the alignment of my components, focusing my powers into one particular direction.

Your scientists know that all matter is composed of the same elements. They do not know consciously how to change a river into a forest. This manipulation, as I have explained, is undertaken unknown to the recognized conscious ego.

(“Do you know who is working on these problems now?”)

I do not know specific people, but I will improve upon these matters as our grand duchess lowers her guard. I am quite dependent upon your Ruburt-Jane, not in my own perceptions but in my ability to communicate them to you. The whole problem lies here, but we are making strides, and we are making them despite some personal temporary setbacks, when Ruburt reads a book that makes him worry about these sessions. Then all three of us work twice as hard for the same results.

I do not believe though I am not certain that Ruburt would go along, certainly not in such a positive manner, if it were not for your acceptance.

(“Do you think I’m pushing her?”)

I do not think you are pushing her, nor am I. It is known however that a feeling of affirmation and confidence is indispensable in any such circumstances. The tricky thing here is that a plus expectancy and inner confidence always brings the best results with the least effort. Ruburt is attracted by and yet doubtful of his own abilities. This is based upon the personal feelings of Ruburt, who is a woman now and does not wish to appear flighty or hysteric.

Once the session has begun he is confident. For this small favor I thank him. I do however understand the problem. You may ask me what you wish.

(“Yes, we do. Why did you say it’s better to send this material to the American Society for Psychical Research, rather than to Duke?”)

In the beginning you may receive a more sympathetic hearing. There is one person there in particular who may be of help. I do not know if you will get distortion in the name. I believe the last name begins with a G, though it is not the original Gardner.

I am giving you data in my own way, somewhat conservatively compared with what you might want, rather than risk any more distortions than absolutely necessary. But we will progress and as a rule I prefer that Ruburt does not know many of my intentions, as he did not know during the incidents of telepathy with your John-Philip, since I do not want him to set up guards in advance.

Do you have any further questions along these lines, Joseph?

(“Just how do you bring about a trance state?”

I do not bring about the trance state in the manner of which you are speaking. Ruburt switches another channel on, through which my essence can enter more readily. There is the problem here of my entry also into your conscious minds. This does certainly involve a looking inward on Ruburt’s part, but it is not self-hypnosis in the terms usually spoken of, merely a focusing upon an objective inner stimulus in much the same manner that you focus upon an outside camouflage stimulus.

Any such signs involve camouflage patterns and do not actually represent direct experience. This is not, for example, my voice. It is a representation or approximation of my voice for your edification. Furthermore in your terms I do not have a voice. Nevertheless it is a valid representation and if I must say so myself, and that’s a pun, the voice is very much like the voice I would use, though Frank had a different one.

(“At that time you also said you didn’t know much about the inhabitants of that plane. Do you know any more now?”)

I do. However it is too late to go into this in tonight’s session. I believe that I have answered most of your questions.

No. What you consider weather has little to do with whether or not I have weather on my level. I do not have rain, or snow, although I can experience rain or snow if I desire.

(“Then you’re doing it just for kicks?”)

Some is distorted. Our material is much more trustworthy. This in no way reflects upon Frank Watts. It has something to do with him but also something to do with the development of your own abilities.

If and when the time presents itself I will attempt to clear any distortions, though I do not consider this a necessity. Nevertheless you may.

Certain isolation from the outside world is absolutely necessary, but do not shrink from contacts. Rather consider them as challenges, and even as pleasures.

Your personality will also grow through such contacts. I hesitate to point this out, or rather Ruburt is hesitating about letting me point this out, but your present father’s personality would not have been half as hampered had he allowed it such contact. You do not have to fear heredity here of course, but rather examples received from him when you were very young.

I do not know about two witnesses at once as yet. However occasionally one should be beneficial, your Philip for various reasons was excellent.

I do not know about our friend of the frequent apparitions. You would have to try him.

(“Do you think Bill might interfere in some way with Jane’s ability?”)

I do not believe so. I will give these matters some thought. I do think, though in a somewhat different fashion, and one that you will find extremely interesting. I hope to go into it in the future.