“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Usually in these sessions only one inner sense is in strong operation, but as I mentioned in our last session, man does not trust anything which occurs to him or in him unless he is consciously aware of what he is doing, how he is doing it, and why. It bothers Ruburt, as he has said in my hearing, that often-times just before we begin our session formally he does not have a thought in his head. And then my excellent dissertations begin, if you will forgive a touch of egoism on my part.

Ruburt wants to know where the words are coming from. He still wants to know if I am part of his subconscious—and I must admit I do find such an idea appalling—and he wants his answers given to him in a manner which his conscious mind can understand. This is our 24th session, and I am still trying to give you the answers.

Any such communications coming through the inner senses will exist in your psychological time. I have said also that this psychological time operates during sleep and during quiet times of consciousness. Now in dreams and in the dream framework you have the feeling of experiencing many hours, or even days. These days or hours that you seem to experience in dreams are not recorded by the physical body, and are outside of your physical time camouflage. If in a dream for example you experience within the framework two days, physically you do not age for these two days.

But the minute, the physical minute, that you try to transpose these visions upon the physical minute, then you have lost them. Many times I am sure, in so-called daydreaming, you have lost track of physical time, and before you know it the experience of inner duration has entered in. Physical time so-called, that is clock time, is one of the latest and most artificial of your camouflages. It has nothing to do with your particular plane. It is a human invention of which your animals are blissfully ignorant.

In Denmark, you yourself were ignorant of this clock time. To people in earlier centuries clock time was unimportant; and from here in I will distinguish between physical time, which has to do with day and night, with the tides and seasons, and clock time with which I will deal only when absolutely necessary.

There is so much to tell you I can really only hit the high spots a good deal of the time. However as I told you, and as even your Malba spoke the truth for once, this will be for you and Ruburt a lifetime experience. And so we do have the time, even the physical time, so that all the material will be covered.

(Break at 10:25. During break we discussed Seth’s apparent ability to go through the whole books of his notes that we have taken, two volumes to date, without the necessity to do it in consecutive order, turn pages, etc. I used the word “see” to describe this process. Jane resumed dictating at 10:30.)

You had better stand up for a moment and move around. That is what you are supposed to do in these frequent breaks from the material. There is no reason why you cannot stand. There are articles of furniture upon which you can rest your pad. Surely I should not have to remind you of the practicality of camouflage patterns, with which I am no longer concerned. If I were as dependent upon them as you are, I would use them better. Indeed, I did when I was. Please do get comfortable.

(“Is there anything I can do to encourage such a flow of data again?”)

At this stage you will do what you can to encourage it without my telling you, yourself, as you yourself initiated the event to begin with. Your own innate inner knowledge will aid you, and any intellectual comprehension at this time would not help; later it may.

I suggest a brief break. And this time my dear Joseph, do copy your strolling wife and move about.

This is going to be a rather brief session comparatively. One note I wanted to make: As I have said, psychological time is a natural connective to the inner world. Though you experience days or hours within the framework of psychological time during the dream state, and yet do not age for a comparable amount of physical time, so as you develop in your use of psychological time you will be able to rest and be refreshed within the framework of psychological time while you are consciously awake. This will aid your mental and physical state to an amazing degree, and you will discover added vitality on the one hand, and a somewhat decreased need to sleep on the other.

You can never force them to exist for a specified period of clock time, nor for that matter can you do that to a dream. Though this may sound impossible at this stage, nevertheless you can control such data when in a waking state better than you can control a dream. Here you learn to use certain parts of the consciousness for the purposes of the whole self, but I will discuss this at a later date.