“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Very nicely in class, she personifies the feelings that each of you have to some degree, involving your inner self…. She shows her feelings in an exaggerated fashion for you to look at, and so when she speaks it is not only for herself but for everyone in this room, including Ruburt.

(To the member): You have, indeed, been performing a useful service in class, but I expect to see it changed. For when you begin to look within yourself you will set the others a fine example, and so you shall.

What happens is that you have an attempt to exchange camouflage realities. The beings entering your plane cannot appear within it as themselves. Since their atomic structure is not the same as yours, distortions must occur in order to make any contact possible. Thus you are greeted with a certain set of sense data. You then try to figure out what is happening but the sense data, you see, means that the event is already distorted to some degree. The physical vehicles that are often perceived are your interpretation of the event that is actually occurring.

Our friend back here (Paul W.) could well appear, you see, as a UFO in another aspect of reality, and frighten the inhabitants. You forget that consciousness is the only true vehicle. No part of your consciousness is imprisoned within you. It materializes in one aspect or another. I use the word “materializes” because it makes sense to you, but it is distortive since it predisposes an appearance within matter. Yet all realities, as you know, are not physical.

I am pleased because you are thinking this evening, all of you — that is what I want you to do. Ideas have no reality unless you make them your own. Make friends or enemies of them. Fight with them or love them but use and experience them, not only with your intellect but with your feelings.

(Bert C.: “I think I understand then, that all of these different levels of my consciousness are being communicated — not only by me consciously, but also telepathically.”)

That is true. When you project your ideas outward, you often behave as if they were not yours but belonged to another. Therefore it behooves you to understand what your ideas and feelings are, and not to be frightened of them.

You can indeed change them, but do not deny the part of you that wanted to wring the other man’s neck. You were so frightened of the thought that you immediately inhibited it. Let us consider. You are terrified of the idea that evil is more powerful than good, that one stray violent thought of yours was more important and powerful than the vitality of good. At least you were aware of the thought. Now say the following happened, that in your terms you progressed to the point where you were no longer aware of the feeling —

Of course, so your muscles tensed, your adrenalin production increased. You wanted to wring his neck but you said, “God bless you, my fine young fellow. May you live a long and merry life.”

Now three weeks later we have another encounter. Our poor ignorant workman again falls asleep at his chores. Our good minister comes by. He sees the idle one upon the floor snoozing, and he thinks, “I would like to kick you in the you-know-where.” But then, “Oh no, I cannot think such an unchristian thought. Violence is wrong.” So before he even admits to himself what he feels, hiding any acknowledgement of aggression, he bends down and says, “My good man, may you live long and heartily. God bless your life.” He pats himself upon the back and thinks, “I am growing more spiritual day by day.”

In the meantime, his muscles have contracted ten times because they could not be put into activity, as the thought behind them was denied. Our poor man is again subconsciously aware of the intent, but only to some degree.

Three months later you have had a really bad day. You are mad at life in general, and now you find our friend upon the floor again; this time, perhaps, he is asleep at a somewhat more important chore that you wanted done. (Humorously): Now far be it from me to accuse you of such an act, even in a fantasy, but this time you are out of your mind. Again, it behooves you to deny your true feelings in order to be spiritual — which is not true spirituality — and you say again, “God bless you, may you go in peace.”

(Jim H.: “In the beginning, before we compounded the frustration and the emotional charges, would you have recommended an action like saying, ‘Come on, this is wrong. I’ve probably done this sort of thing myself, but it really bugs me. We have to get up and get to work here.’ Would being honest with him at that level have prevented these charges?”)

Originally you were not angry enough to kick him. The thought existed, but it wasn’t strong enough to bring about the physical reaction even if you had fully admitted it. Do you follow me?

You certainly understand that I am doing with your case the same thing that I have done with others, so please do not be offended. I do not want any of you, you see, to use these ideas as superficial bandages for your bleeding psyches…. So you are not as bad as I pegged you. You might be inclined in the direction I have indicated, but then so is everyone else in the room, including Ruburt.

It does indeed, in your terms, but that knowledge is also available to you. Now we cannot cover one topic clearly in a single evening, much less one hundred and one topics. In reference, however, to one remark you made earlier: You have in almost all of your lives been strongly involved in what you would call religious endeavors. Your remaining lives were just as religiously involved in opposite endeavors, in your terms, but we will go into that later. The holy soul turned inside out is some fleshpot, let’s put it that way.

You have always been involved with questions concerning good and evil, and you had two existences in two civilizations in Egypt. In one of these your friend over here (Bert C.) was involved. It is too late to go into that incarnation this evening and besides neither of you are ready to benefit from it yet. It is not a fascinating story to be told only for your enjoyment, but it will help when you can understand it.

It has seemed to many of you that you have been tinged by evil, from birth. (To Jim H.): In one of your past lives you not only heartily believed this, but taught it.

As Ruburt would put it, your sidekick over here (Jim’s wife, Jean) did not go along with your ideas at all in that life. She was a male at that time, however, and you were a female and a priestess. So was your friend (Bert C.). As a male in that life she had an expanding effect upon your personality, but you were very given to ritual and a belief in magic acts, and to the idea that existence in itself was evil and wrong. You were indeed a member of the sect now called Gnostic.

Not only that, but because you sense in yourself still some sympathy toward the beliefs. While you are freeing yourself you recognize within your psyche a leaning in that direction, and so you lash out whenever you hear such ideas, not realizing that you lash out against yourself.

You were at that time a male and a friend of his. Now almost all who come to these classes have at one time or another been engaged in such endeavors. You have all been a part of other classes, though not necessarily with me. Because of your long interest, certain aspects will hit many of you very strongly. Association operates not only within one life, but between lives in your terms. Words and phrases spoken now will trigger your memories, and those memories will become alive if you allow them to.