“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

“Both religion and science are based upon such beliefs. Anything that happens spontaneously is looked upon with suspicion. The word seems to suggest elements out of control, or motion that goes from one extreme to another. Only the reasoning mind, it seems, has any idea of order, discipline, or control.

Ideas about conservation enter in as a result of my comments about alternate sources of energy, of course, and these are related to a number of deep desires that Jane and I have. We want our nation to embark upon programs to cut, and eventually eliminate for all practical purposes, its continually growing dependence upon foreign oil, for we see great risks in an overreliance upon that course of action; we think those hazards should be obvious to everyone since the oil embargo declared against us in 1973 by the countries of the Middle East. This excessive dependence can be done away with eventually, but at considerable sacrifice. Jane and I are more than ready to make those sacrifices; indeed, we live very conservatively even now. We can’t conceive of anything more worthwhile than to achieve an independence of spirit that’s based upon an independence of means, whether on a personal or national scale. But once it’s largely self-sufficient, the United States could really begin to fulfill its role of leadership in the world.

3. “After last night’s (845th) session,” Jane wrote, “I watched television while Rob went for a walk. As I sat there I started to get more from Seth on one of the subjects mentioned in the session. The material came in ideas, though, not in Seth’s ‘finished copy.’ I told Rob about it when he came back, and now this morning I’ll see what I can recall for these notes.

“The idea is that the scientists’ system of beliefs is bound to result in some destructive action; that is, the implied attitudes of today’s scientists lead them to be less careful of life than they should be, and separate them from nature in a way that leads to some contempt on their parts of individual living things. The leaders of religious cults, like that of Jonestown, overexaggerate grandiose ideals of brotherhood and love, for example (as Seth has mentioned), while often forbidding the natural expression of love on the part of one individual for another — assaulting family affiliations and so forth. As a result, the idealized love becomes more and more inaccessible, with the growth of more guilt and despair.