“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

However, there is something that you should know. Because you are physically oriented, you early got it into your heads that goodness must have a place in the physical universe and evil must have a place within it. And so you set up for yourselves the division of Heaven and Hell. In one story or another, it has existed far back into the annals of your time. Now give us a moment.

As I have tried to explain to you, the rigorous concepts of good and evil are themselves highly distorted, and when you find such a dilemma where goodness is one thing and evil another, and both contrary and separate, then you automatically separate them in your minds and in your feelings and in your fantasies. You do not seem at this point able to realize that what you call evil works for what you call good, or that both are a part of energy, and that you are using energy to form your reality, both now and after this life. This is because you deal with effects physically, as you see them. And until you divest yourself of such psychological behavior, it will always seem to you that good and evil are opposites, and you will treat them as such in your feelings and in your concepts and in your myths.

Only in the terms in which you ask the question. In larger terms, there is no such thing as destruction; and your second question does not follow logically from the first one. Now if you will look at the script when you receive it, you will see what I mean. You ask questions without considering the answers that have been given. Think of the answers before you form your next question.

(To Ron) I egg—listen to me—I egg you on. It is good for you and good for the class and very good for this one over here (Florence), because you ask questions that she is already thinking of, and for some reason she has suddenly grown timid about her questions. Now, continue.

That is what I told you operates within your reality, and you did not listen to my answer. When you read the text, it will be simply clarified. In your reality, the stance that you adapt is a necessary one, and you must hold to it. The fact that it does only apply to your system need not presently concern you.

No! There are no forces outside of yourselves that in your terms cause you to do evil. Unfortunately, what you think of as good and evil reside within yourselves, and you cannot blame an evil force for the destruction that runs rampant across the earth. Again, in your terms, these are your problems, and no god or devil put them upon you, and there is no one to blame but yourselves. On the other hand, for the seasons and the idiot flower (looks at Joel H.), you have yourselves to thank. You are learning how to use the creative energy of which you are a part, and you are indeed quite isolated, so you cannot do much harm, in your terms. And so that the evil that you think you do is an illusion. And so that for the millions that you think you slay, you slay not one. And so that despite you and your concepts of value, creativity always emerges triumphant, and those that are killed in one war come back to fight against war the next time, and hopefully, you teach yourselves some lessons. And if you destroy your planet, you will have others to work with, and those that were destroyed are not destroyed. You are in a training system. The mistakes in the long run, and in your terms, will not count, but they are very real to you at this time.

There were two brothers strongly united in control of Italy at the time. Perhaps I should say two males, one in the higher capacity and the other his chancellor, with whom I was involved as pope. And I sent armies to the north also.

We had not yet begun the strong insistence upon indulgences (looks at Brady), so I did not have that extra cash that indulgences would bring in. (To Theodore) I believed and did not believe, as you earlier believed and did not believe, and did a good job of hiding from myself what I believed and what I did not believe. And the higher one gets in power, the harder it is to hide such things from one’s self.

(To Natalie.) Now, I will help you send energy to your tree. If we can fix one tree, surely we can do something with the universe.

(To Brady.) And you will be a guest, if you do not mind cavorting with past popes. I know it is against your principles, but then it is against my own (laughter). A past pope is better than a present one.