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([Joel:] “It was war. It was the instinct to survive. They moved in and everybody could have coexisted together but it just didn’t work that way. We were proud . We lived in a beautiful, but in the sense that this world has plenty, that there was nothing there. We lived and lived successfully. There were hard times. There was summer and there was famine and there were some pretty bad winters, but we were a success. We had been on that land a long time and then you people came in and looked down on us. You thought we were a bunch of savages and you wouldn’t be friends with us or talk to us. You didn’t want to talk to us—we were a bunch of animals yet you lived in hovels made out of dirt. You held yourselves up and thought you were so great and inadvertently or intentionally you began to destroy us at first and then it became more of a pattern because then you sensed that your survival was hinging on it too. Then it became kind of a guerilla warfare on both sides and it accelerated. It wasn’t necessary at all, but I guess we didn’t know that then.”

([Jane:] “You didn’t even know at that time?”

([Joel to Bette:] “Do you have any feelings of what you were doing there? Why would you go where you didn’t belong. You knew you didn’t belong there the minute you saw the place.”

([Bette:] “I didn’t know I didn’t belong there and I didn’t really care about the Indians. All I cared about was my own.”

([Joel:] “But you didn’t care if the Indians lived or died or survived or moved out or what happened?”

([Bette:] “Right. I just didn’t care as long as there was...”

([Joel:] “You knew that Indian men and women and children were dying. Didn’t that affect you at all? Didn’t you care?”

([Bette:] “I didn’t know at the time what was actually going on and I don’t think...”

([Bette:] “I didn’t give a damn about him.”

([Bette:] “Well, who started it? I sure didn’t. My kids sure didn’t and my husband didn’t. He couldn’t do anything.”

([Jane:] “She also took the first shot at you guys, but that didn’t mean much because you were going to kill them anyway.”

([Bette:] “Because he started to—He just didn’t have any gumption to him. He started to whimper and to cry when he knew that he had his home and his family to protect and he didn’t do it, and I had crying kids and I didn’t need a crying husband because the older kids could shoot much better than their father because he didn’t know how to pull the trigger. He didn’t know how to do anything.”