“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

([Joel:] “It was war. It was the instinct to survive. They moved in and everybody could have coexisted together but it just didn’t work that way. We were proud . We lived in a beautiful, but in the sense that this world has plenty, that there was nothing there. We lived and lived successfully. There were hard times. There was summer and there was famine and there were some pretty bad winters, but we were a success. We had been on that land a long time and then you people came in and looked down on us. You thought we were a bunch of savages and you wouldn’t be friends with us or talk to us. You didn’t want to talk to us—we were a bunch of animals yet you lived in hovels made out of dirt. You held yourselves up and thought you were so great and inadvertently or intentionally you began to destroy us at first and then it became more of a pattern because then you sensed that your survival was hinging on it too. Then it became kind of a guerilla warfare on both sides and it accelerated. It wasn’t necessary at all, but I guess we didn’t know that then.”

([Joel:] “I just saw a hatchet kind of a thing with feathers and stuff on it and as the symbol developed it changed into a boomerang with feathers on it.”

([Joel:] “Well, it’s not this one reincarnational period, I’m sure, and today I still think the Indians had and have a better life philosophy, a purer kind of thing.”

([Joel to Bette:] “Do you have any feelings of what you were doing there? Why would you go where you didn’t belong. You knew you didn’t belong there the minute you saw the place.”

([Joel:] “But you didn’t care if the Indians lived or died or survived or moved out or what happened?”

([Joel:] “Yet you had gone in and pushed them out of their own land.”

([Joel:] “You knew that Indian men and women and children were dying. Didn’t that affect you at all? Didn’t you care?”

([Joel:] “It was the only news that there was. We weren’t getting any news from back East. The only gossip was whose crop failed or whose cow had a ...”

([Joel:] “Which race are you talking about? Did you know when your people were on the warpath?”

([Joel:] “How about your husband?”

([Joel:] “It just seems that you are awfully quick to condemn. After all the first blood let that day was not ours.”

([Joel:] “That day.”

([Joel:] “Who killed the first human being?”

([Joel:] “Evidently someone...”

([Joel:] “When we were coming in there was one guy who wasn’t alive when we got there.”

([Joel:] “Coming in, closing in, riding up to...”

([Joel:] “Somebody did.”

([Bette to Joel:] “Don’t fight with me either. Just be nice.”

([Joel:] “You said it’s all over, and you don’t feel that dislike anymore.”

([Joel:] “How about if you met your husband sometime in this life. Would you feel the same kind of forgiving spirit for him and acceptance for him that you seem to for me now? Now that you are working it all out and letting it out now?”

([Bette:] “Yes. I learned a lot from that lifetime because I am a regular crusader when it comes to Indians and it’s a wonder I haven’t grabbed a sword and said, ‘charge’, because I have great feelings for the Indians. I have had more fights when there has been racial talks and discussions on the blacks and the whites and so on. Somehow I always managed to get the Indian into the argument so evidently I have forgiven all that they did to me until l saw Joel, and then it all came back.”

([Jane:] “How do you feel towards Joel?”

([Bette:] “I feel all right. I felt fine towards Joel the first night because the minute you started talking, for weeks I had been coming to class, when I would see the war paint on him I would get a terrible pain in my head. I remarked several times in class about I had this pain in my head, and I couldn’t work it out no matter what I did. And that night here in the room when you were talking it was like somebody was pulling something out of my head, and I have not had this pain or this pressure since.”

([Jane:] “What about you, Joel? I don’t feel it’s resolved.”

([Joel:] “I have to do it at a couple of levels. Intellectually first.”

([Joel:] “Well, it may be completely resolved on all levels but you recognize the intellectual first anyway.”

([Bill, an entity channeled by Joel H.:] “Part of letting it ride was what caused the difficulty in the first place and the yelling was a release of emotion and we have met before. Someone has been helping you to get over some feelings in the (night) lifetime and they are much more worked through than you might realize at the intellectual level. The advice is good. Continue probing, but what has been need not continue to be for you at this time. And since this is a night when the process of telling secrets continues, let me tell one, I have been here before.”)