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[... 13 paragraphs ...]
([Bette:] “If you kept it up, I was just going to forget the thought and then get up and grab it.”
[... 1 paragraph ...]
“But I know, if I looked at each of you and the selves you think you are, with just the little experience I’ve got of the self I thought I was and find I’m not, that you have all kinds of potentialities right now, not that you necessarily have to wait for or work for or anything, but that you have now. And when you look at me and want Seth to come through, and when you don’t want to know what Jane says but you want to know what Seth says, you are denying your own reality. You are denying your own inner voice. Because you’re saying, well, Jane is just an individual, and she can’t know but Seth knows, and I’m an individual and I don’t know, but Seth knows. But without me Seth couldn’t speak, and without your inner selves you wouldn’t have the knowledge.
[... 1 paragraph ...]
([Bette:] “I want to say one little thing. When Bill came through, certainly we all looked. It was somebody that some of us here, I hadn’t heard before. I talked to him because he talked to me. If he hadn’t, I wouldn’t have pushed in to talk to Bill. I enjoyed talking with him. But as far as thinking that I could learn any more by listening to him than I could from coming here, or just listening to myself because if Joel is capable of doing this, so am I. If he can look in, so can I.”
[... 1 paragraph ...]
([Student:] “That’s good, but what you’re saying [referring to Jane] is true too, because looking back on it, it was exactly the feeling I had when I... Joel looked at me, I thought, maybe something will happen.”
([Jane:] “It was sort of sad because I thought as I watched you all gravitate, I thought, they look at me as uncritically.”
[... 2 paragraphs ...]
([Joel:] “The reason that Bill didn’t come through a long time ago was precisely as Jane says, and I don’t care what anybody says anymore.”
[... 3 paragraphs ...]
([Student:] “I just wanted to be heard before we got off the subject. The class dream I couldn’t remember was precisely just what you [Jane] were saying right now, and I did mention something this evening before class started that I just remembered. Seth was speaking. He wanted to know why, just what you said, we all gravitate in that particular area; why we just heard one voice over another, or did we or should we and so on; just exactly what you said ...I told you before class started.”
[... 2 paragraphs ...]
Now I have never said I was a nondescript personality floating through space. Not only would I not say it of me, I would not say it of you, and I would not like it, and I do not like it when you say it of yourself. You are each unique and individual and you are each highly original and as Ruburt has so nicely said, you each have your own paths into experience and understanding.
([Joel:] “A substitute instead of nondescript—what I was trying to say was rigidly defined. I can’t accept that we are rigidly defined and structured as personalities.”)
[... 1 paragraph ...]
Now, I hope when this is recorded you will read these statements simply several times for I am saying this as clearly as I can. These are the ways in which what I say differs from those stereotyped stories of which Ruburt was speaking. First of all, there is nothing wrong with physical existence. You are not born through any sin, either original sin or Freudian sin. You are not either the products of some experiment that did not work on the part of superior scientists from another planet. You are not automatically hampered with. You are not automatically flawed. There is nothing automatically wrong with you. There is a spirituality within your tissues.
[... 7 paragraphs ...]
(To Astor.) Now you have heard me before and listened to me before, and you have argued with me as this one over here now loves to do. And there was a time when you and Ruburt played in the rivers together as children. I did indeed say to this group it was a fairly good approximation of my manner.
[... 10 paragraphs ...]