“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now you are both channels, in those terms, for what you might think of as both white holes and black holes. You are channels through which various realities merge and meet and in which transmutations constantly occur. You are yourselves, then, warps in the universe as you think of it. You are meeting places where other realities merge and meet. You are intersections, cosmic intersections, and it is up to you as the conscious selves that you think you are now, to listen and watch and to be aware of these portions of your personality that flow through you and in and out of you, in your terms.

And the time has come for you to experience fresh and new concepts and to find them within yourselves for the miracle of consciousness is your own as it is my own, or Ruburt’s own. You are each the miracles of consciousness, and those miracles occur within you constantly in your terms of time. Therefore, each of you possess within yourselves inroads, or if you prefer outroads, where other portions of reality and other selves merge and reemerge, come and go, materialize, in your terms, and dematerialize. The answers, as you know therefore, are not only within yourself but pass through you automatically if you but realize it and know it. And within yourselves you each possess in miniature all the properties of the universe as you conceive of it at this present time.

You always create it. You create and form your own reality, but you create and form more realities than you consciously realize. Now it is possible, you see, and you are trying to bring what you think of as your conscious self into some awareness of what these other portions of the inner self are up to so, supposing we call your presently conscious self your immediate self. Will you accept that phrase? All right. So we will say you all have immediate selves which deal with the here and now, in those terms. Now the immediate self can indeed become aware of other portions of your own reality, and it is up to you to bring it into line. To some extent you can do this, not entirely, but intuitively you can make great strides. You may not be able to translate the experience clearly, but you may be able to translate it capably enough so that you realize, so that the immediate self realizes, that it is indeed a part of other experiences.

You are indeed. Playful creators always help. Creation is playful and full of joy but do not in your own heart set up any kind of social barrier. For when you do unknowingly, you do what has already been done to you and therefore perpetuate, to some extent, those stereotypes that so upset and annoy you. I understand your feeling and your sense of accomplishment but also remember in your heart that the most stereotyped unoriginal suburbanite, in your terms, has within him all the capabilities of which we speak so that you do not, in your own mind, set him down as a caste system for that is what has been done to you. Recognize in yourself the egos that you see in others.

I did not say you were evil and never would I say such a thing. When you read the record you will realize that is not what I said. I said, recognize within yourself those evils that you recognize in others, but I meant only those things that in your own mind you set up as evil for you project those things upon others and make your own reality. Now, the barriers you see do not exist in the children but in yourself. And that is what I want you to understand.

(Jane suggested we find our own symbol.)

To some extent Ruburt’s voice was your own voice, the voice of each of you leading you on journeys that you wanted to take. Initiating adventures that you want yourselves to make.

([Ron Labadee:] “I wanted to throw something out. Several sessions ago we got into a conversation about the nature of the way you perceive this reality although we didn’t get into your own particular...”)

The ways in which I can perceive this reality.

Now my dear love. Jane may or may not look into your playing cards. I do not know. That is up to her or to Ruburt. As far as I am concerned, I will not bother. Now we have been through this with keener minds than your own. The claims I make, I make not only for myself, but for you and for each person in this room. You can perceive those playing cards as clearly as I can, and if you will not believe me, you will not believe yourself. When I follow through with such demonstrations, I will do so not in the confines of this room and not under conditions set by you, but in a situation in which the claims are clearly recorded with the results in which there is no possibility that anyone will say suggestion is involved; in which no one will be able to say that scientific principles were not clearly set upon and not to satisfy your curiosity! You can, however, prove to yourself by reading the cards. I do not have the doubts, you do.

What is important are emotional realities not symbols upon cards and until you realize that and until you are willing to open up emotionally to the atmosphere of the class and to the room then no proofs will be proofs to you.

([Ron:] “To a certain extent, you know, you can always— you can bring my motivations into question, but I have like one overriding feeling and that is—I feel that within my own experience I have seen certain indications just from the things that I might be capable of that I could do this myself if, if when and if, because I have entertained the challenge of developing this ability but I in this situation here, I am confronted with kind of a different type of ramifications. What I am saying is, within this, within this context for me and for persons who would like to contribute to a communally verifiable and acceptable body of knowledge there are certain precise ways in which you could go about...”)

([Ron:] “With my own training in psychology, I could set up a controlled airtight experiment. In other words, if you had made kind of a nebulous statement about the nature of your perceptivity, if you had said something...”)

I am making statements about the nature of my perceptivity and your own. And you can accept the statements or not accept them, and that is entirely up to you.

He did, indeed. And your need in that particular line is your own. And peace in finding it.

([Ron:] “Yes it is my own, but...”)

You see, you come with demands. Now those who have come open-mindedly to class have found their proofs; and proofs that were not dependent upon cards or showy tricks, but strong proof in that the nature of their reality changed. They understood themselves better. They would relate to the experience that they know. They had experiences that they did not have before, and their mental, psychological and spiritual worlds expanded. And to them, and to me, card reading is an entirely different and inferior product, but while that is what you are looking for you will find yourself at the level that you are now. Without strong subjective proof of your own, without the full ability to travel inward and the doorways to inner knowledge closed until you receive the kind of proof that you are after.

([Ron:] “Even though for myself, you know, for my own personal point of view it would be something that would be very relevant and particularly in terms of the way I relate into this situation.”)

My opinion is that that I have given. Had you come here, however, when the sessions had shortly begun, and Ruburt was himself looking for that kind of proof, the answer may have been different. It is what I have given you now, however, and I fear that like our friend, Instream, unless you change you will be looking for proofs that mean nothing and ignoring the inner reality that is all important and closing your mind to inner validity that alone will give you the kind of proofs that you require. They will come from the inside and not from skepticism. And then you will see them. For example, had your attitude been different and your whole emotional atmosphere been different, and had you in a mood of fun and free giving thrown cards upon the table when I was speaking and said, “Seth, what is on the other side of the cards?” you may have gotten an answer. But not in the framework in which you asked the question nor in the framework in which you proposed the experiment.