“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now if you will allow me, creativity is born from desire. To deny creativity is to deny All That Is, is to deny the vitality that was born itself out of its own desire. To deny individuality or to speak in terms of nirvana is to deny the vitality from which all originally came, in your terms.

Now you may ask me questions when I am done. Store them up and give us a moment.

Now each of you is a part of All That Is, highly individual and unique, like no other, and that like no otherness will never be taken from you. You will not melt into some great golden bliss in which your characteristics will disappear. You will not be gobbled by a supergod. On the other hand you will continue to exist; you will continue to be responsible for the way in which you use energy; you will expand in ways now impossible for you to understand. You will learn to command energy of which you now do not know. You will realize that you are more than you realize that you are now, but you will not lose the state of which you are now aware, and regardless of the fact of reincarnation and regardless of probable selves the unique self that you now call yourself has eternal validity even though the memories that you cannot now consciously recall will be yours in their entirety. And physical life in its reincarnational self is not some chaos thrust upon you, some evil from which you must shortly hope to escape. It is a particular reality in which you have chosen to know your existence, in which you have chosen to develop yourself, and it is indeed a system, again, like no other system, a unique and dear and beloved portion of reality in which you have decided to flourish for awhile. And in denying it, again, you deny the reality of experience.

In other terms, you will leave this system for others, but there will be a portion of you yet, no matter how many eons pass, that remembers a spring evening and a smell of autumn air; and those things will always be with you when you want them. You make your own flesh and your own world as now en masse you form the evening. These are creations of yours and of your kind. They are not prisons to be escaped from.

([Ron:] “Within this system of meditation you talked about the creative vitality and the creative energy, that the idea of the end goal is the identity of the source of All That Is ...what is Buddha doing now?”)

He is now in another sphere of activity. He is not in the reincarnational cycle. No one continues in the reincarnational cycle forever. He is continuing his own development.

Within each of you there are truths that you do not know, realizations of inner reality. Now your ego, your exterior self, focuses outward into physical reality. It senses this inner knowledge, but it cannot understand it. It wants to see inner knowledge projected outward onto the physical reality then, to some extent, it will accept it and so through the eons that you know this inner knowledge, this inner vitality is projected outward onto history and onto historical events as you understand them. I am giving you some advance reference from my book.

Now certain individuals, certain historical events, seem suddenly struck with inner brilliance. Certain men and women seem touched by some unseen light. They have extraordinary force, and this is the projection from the inner self of this inner light outward onto people and events. Now en masse there is an inner religious drama, if you will. An inner morality play if you want to use the term. I think that is a collegiate term, and that is why I am looking at you (Kris). It shows I am trying to relate.

Now this inner drama cannot be understood by the ego, and so it is projected outward into external reality. Certain individuals, therefore, in history, certain geniuses, kings, priests, prophets, are touched by this light. All of the individuals living, in your terms, at that time have taken part in the same inner drama which is then exteriorized. The individuals then accept this projection upon themselves—the heroes, in other words, or the gods, or the prophets, or the kings. They are recognized intuitively when they appear on the exterior scene because in psychic life they have already been known, and in dream states these dramas have been worked out. They are recognized at once on the historical scene.

Now on the one hand their abilities and their power is based upon the inner ability and power of all of these, in your terms, alive in that particular era. However, they became what they seem to be for these chosen people have also accepted this role, and the exterior drama will be worked out in such a way that it makes sense within the time period in which it seems to take place. In this same framework, as the exterior drama begins to fade and as it has left meaning, in your terms, only now as time seems to pass, then once again the interior drama arises, but this time with a new story, with a different god and with new prophets; and as the old weakens so the new interior drama begins once more to arouse man from within his dreams, and again they choose and someone appears, or two or three, and a new drama is projected into external reality.

Now you may take your break.

Now he is a psychic entity and as such he is a valid reality, as Christ is, and you can all study that sentence. It is loaded.

Why could not an energy state also be composed of individual identities? Why must it be some blah? Why can it not be a psychic gestalt? Now, wait.

But more than the sum. Now you are squirreling around in your own head playing with words and concepts and not listening to what I have said. If you had been listening you would be more clever with your questions.

(After break, to Bette.) Now for a cousin of Richelieu in the 18th-century France you put up some struggle pretending that you do not understand what you like to think of as intellectual discussions, and you make a great fight against what you like to think of as verbalization, and you pretend to yourself that you do not understand what I am saying when I am saying it. Now you are putting artificial limitations upon yourself that you partially understand and partially do not understand.

It is also highly charged to hide from yourself the fact that, as a cousin of Richelieu, you dwelt in a highly artificial intellectualized environment in which words were spoken about constantly without any understanding, and in which you personally held forth using words to cower both your friends and later the masses. And so now you pretend a vulgar, earthy, frank, common behavior that does not fit the inner self and yet fools you on an egotistical basis very well. However, it also serves to blunt your own abilities and to cause inner behavior that, again, is not suited to your capacities for it causes you to pretend not to understand that which you do well understand and therefore to block from your ego information that is otherwise quite plain.

Now you have a division neatly drawn for yourself; a framework in which you find yourself acting. A personality that you have set up for yourself, but the fact that you are coming to classes and using the intuitional abilities opens up a slight window in that artificial personality that you have adapted, for in your mind you think—  and if you will forgive me, I will speak for you, but you may make a rebuttal. You think: “I am frank, I am earthy, I am one of the common stock; I do not understand this high verbalized chatter. Those that have been to school understand these things, but I am left out. But I do not care for the words are meaningless and in me there is a frankness and vitality that these others do not have.”

Now that is one level, and on another level you think, “I am of the earth and strong and vital, and those who rely upon such thin, high, intellectual matter do not know what they are talking about. I can be brutal in my honesty but at least I am honest and I do not play with words.” And this is a personality that you have set up for yourself because behind it all in the French court you glorified in the use of words, in the high play of intellect in what now to you would seem to be surface, artificial qualities of stereotyped verbal behavior. You are quite able to follow any discussion in this room and it is about time that you realized it and used those intellectual abilities that are your own, and it is about time that you stopped telling yourself that you do not understand that which you well understand. I am onto you.

(To everyone.) Now in one way you are all playing childhood games with yourselves, and if you will forgive me, I will use an analogy and remember it is an analogy. And an analogy is a fable, a tale, a story, or a parable that is innately true while it may not physically appear to be so. You are all children in one way playing beneath the maple trees, dreaming in the long twilights of your adult state even as your adult selves now seemingly so independent would not know what to say to your childhood selves if you met them; but within you the childhood self must also grow, and allow it its growth. In the reality that you know there are many boxes. You can travel from one box to another. The boxes are not prisons anymore than the cousin of Richelieu is hidden to the housewife who is now so proudly the housewife and so contemptuous, for Richelieu’s cousin who was also contemptuous particularly of housewives.

(A wasp flew around the ceiling.) Now I buzz as your wasp does. Ruburt will let the wasp out, you need not worry; nor is he about to attack you in a mindless rage. But remember the magic that is within yourselves. It is always there. You have only to recognize it, and you have only to be aware of the classes that you do all attend when you sleep.

Because you were looking for it, and it is a life you needed to know about. Now. There were other, gentler ones. But here you were denying your intellectual abilities and projecting outward upon others, a dislike that was of your own making. You were a fine dancer, and you were very good with the ladies, and within the framework of existence in which you dwelt, you had a good heart. Now that should make you feel better.

(To Janice.) Now. Give us a moment. To the quiet one over there, next to the cousin of Richelieu, I do not speak to you often because I frighten you.

You seem to be. You are doing well on your own and relating this material in terms of your own existence at this time, which is good. And you are progressing. Now let the other relationship go. Just let it go. In terms of yourself. And by let it go, I mean forget it entirely. This is a relationship mentioned already in class of which you spoke. Let it go. And in daydreams let it go.

(To Arnold.) Now a word over here. Feel concepts. Begin with your intellect and then leap over to feeling the concepts, and go along and merge with them. Begin if you want then, with what seems to be intellectual meditation, intellectual thought, and then let it carry you away, and it will carry you into a feeling of concept in which you understand a new concept. You should have some more evidence.

That is your difficulty. Do not overplay your hand. The dream experience that our friend (Sue) had was legitimate, and you were involved in it though you do not remember. Now apply it specifically to a daily life situation. Do not overplay your hand. Do not cry wolf, wolf, unless you mean it. If you mean it, you do not need to yell wolf.

Do not give the suggestion in those terms. Imagine emotionally, instead, your feeling that the symptoms have already disappeared. Emotionally, imagine how fine you feel that now the symptoms are gone. Do not hammer at yourself. In a moment, see yourself freed from the symptoms and then forget the episode.

I would like to give you, for now, the same answer that I gave you before. Yes. And that was as far as I was willing to go at that time. And it is as far as both of us are willing to go at this time. And that tells you more than you knew before you asked the question.

(To Valerie and Vanessa.) Now I have a few more remarks for our twins over here. You react to each other strongly. Therefore, the thoughts of one are picked up and reacted to by the other, so you can reinforce each other by sending thoughts of energy and encouragement. Now give us a moment.

(To Vanessa.) You are sometimes engulfed by feelings of loneliness, even in your family relationship, and some of these are picked up from the other twin over here, some of those thoughts without recognizing their origin. You (Valerie) can to some extent get relief from your own feelings of isolation not by reacting to others, but by opening up to nature on an emotional level, not an intellectual one; and also by relating to this one’s child. There will be great rapport there for you, if you learn how to take advantage of it, for the child also takes support from your feelings for it. Now give us a moment.

The affair in the overall will work out well for you  the situation as it now exists. It will work out in the framework that you now have. Do you follow me? The one detriment is an explosive nature on the part of the male involved under certain circumstances and certain conditions. A certain attitude on his part. This can be compensated for by an evenness of disposition on your part ...(tape was changed here, words missing) ...you need not manufacture such an attitude... work out should help give it to you. A feeling of inner confidence that he will sense.

There can be, in the realm of possibilities—there will be—within a three month period, I believe, someone to whom you will relate quite strongly. This seems to be a male—now we are speaking symbolically, in that he seems to be coming from the left, which means, I believe, he will not be coming from your family, or perhaps even from this area, but someone that you do not know now, who will bring you an onrush of feeling and an openness of emotion. In the long run, I do not see this situation developing into a strong one. But the situation will serve to release your emotions and prepare you for other encounters. It will be, therefore, on your part an emotional rebirth or reemergence after a long period that seems to you as great and very dark.

(To April.) Now over here  until you have been here longer, I do not have too much to say to you for there is much that you must learn, and you might misinterpret what I might say—only that I am aware of your motives, and that there are reasons behind all behavior and all events, though they seem to you quite tragic. That there is meaning, therefore, in your child’s life and existence and even in your attitudes toward the child; and that in your terms, regardless of what happens, the child has a future, and that all endings are new beginnings.