“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You have no problem relating to other people. You have your greatest difficulty in relating to yourself, and you avoid meeting yourself in your sensitivity sessions, and you only use them as an excuse so that you can tell yourself that you are going as far as you should. You are telling yourself that you are a good girl. Now, until you are ready to look deeper within yourself that is fine, but I want you to realize what you are doing. You are avoiding your inner life as completely as you can afford to.

Because you are not ready to know. I am not telling you this, as Ruburt would say, to put you down. You are far too intelligent not to realize, basically, what you are doing. I just want you to realize that I am intelligent enough to know what you are doing also. I did not say you were doing nothing. A small something to keep your finger in.

One small note. In some respects these pulsations represent what happens in some of your flying saucer incidents, for you do not often have a vehicle such as the vehicle that you perceive, or think that you perceive. Now I am speaking of only certain cases. In these cases you have visitors from other areas of actuality, other realities.

What happens is this—you have an attempt to exchange camouflage realities. The original beings entering your plane cannot appear within it as themselves, their atomic structure is not the same as yours. Distortions must therefore occur in order to make any contact possible and indeed, distortions must occur in order to make these contacts possible. So you are greeted with a certain set of sense data. You then try to figure out what is happening from the sense data that is presented to you, but the sense data, you see, means that the event is already to some extent distorted. The physical vehicles that are often perceived are your interpretation of the event that is actually occurring.

Now, our friend back here (Ned) could well appear, you see, as a UFO in another aspect of reality, and frighten the inhabitants. Is it a bird, is it a plane? No, it is Super Ned. But you forget consciousness is the reality and the only true vehicle, and no part of your consciousness is imprisoned within you and it materializes in one aspect or another. Now, I use the word materializes because it makes sense to you but the word itself is distortive because it predisposes an appearance within matter materialization, and yet all realities, as you know, are not physical.

I am pleased because you are thinking yourselves this evening, and that is what I want you to do. Ideas have no reality unless you yourselves make them your own. Make friends of them or enemies of them. Fight with them or love them, but use them and experience them and meet them not only with your intellect but with your feelings.

Until you are honest with yourself and know yourself and become consciously aware of yourself you cannot honestly relate with others for you project upon them your own fears and your own prejudice, and you cannot afford to help them because you have too many insecurities within yourself. Now, you form the physical reality that you know, individually and en masse, and to change the world that you know you must change your thoughts and to change them you must become consciously aware of what you tell yourself is true every moment of the day for that is your reality, and that is what you project outward.

It is, indeed. However, telepathy does exist. Others are aware, therefore, to a large extent of what you are thinking and feeling.

([Daniel:] “The true feelings, despite what I might project consciously?”)

Now the true feelings do not necessarily imply the violent or aggressive feelings. They also imply the feelings of love and acceptance that are buried beneath your own fears, and those that you are terrified of expressing in physical reality.

That is true, and also that you are projecting your ideas outward into physical reality and then often behaving as if those ideas were not yours but belonged to another. And, therefore, it behooves you to understand and know what these ideas and emotions and feelings are and not to be frightened of them. And I hope you understand what I mean or I shall be forced to go into another analogy about a flower.

Indeed, so that your muscles tensed, your adrenaline production increased, you wanted to wring his neck and you stood there and said, God bless you my fine young fellow. May you live a long and merry life. Now, telepathically, our fine young fellow knows exactly what you are feeling at the time. You are the one who is out of contact with your feelings and emotions at that point, however, for at this point of your “spiritual progression” you only imagine that you wish him good. The muscles are already contracted in your body. They are contracted because you have not admitted, in this point admittedly of future spiritual progression, that you wanted to wring his neck, so you say nothing but wish him well.

Now three weeks later we have another encounter and our poor ignorant workman falls asleep again at his chore and our good minister comes by and he looks and he sees the idle one upon the floor snoozing and he thinks, I would like to kick you in the you know where, but he thinks, oh no, I cannot think such an unChristian thought and violence is wrong, so before he even admits to himself what he feels and hiding from himself any acknowledgment of aggression. Instead, he bends down and says, my good man, et cetera, may you live long and hearty and God bless your life and then he pats himself on the back and thinks, I am growing more spiritual day by day. In the meantime, the muscles have contracted ten times because they could not be put into activity before, as the thought behind them was denied.

([Joel:] “Yes, what I am trying to get at is how I should have had, though in this hypothetical case, these feeling without trying to repress them and going through this.”)

([Sally:] “I’m trying to think of what you’re getting at.”)

I do not define bad and when I use the term, hopefully, I am using it according to your own inferior definition. Now you have some idea in your head that good is gentle and bad is violent and that no violence can be good and this is because in your mind, violence and destruction are the same thing. Now by this analogy, you see, the soft voice is the holy voice and the loud voice is the wicked voice and the firm step is the bad voice and the soft step is the good voice and a strong desire is the bad desire and a weak one the good one so that you become afraid of projecting ideas outward or desires outward, for in the back of your mind you think that what is powerful is evil and what is weak is good and must be protected and coddled and prayed for and begged for.

It does, indeed, in your terms, but that knowledge is also available to you. Now we cannot cover one topic in an evening clearly, much less 101 topics. I am not Scheherazade nor am I a handy father image or a handy granddaddy image. In reference, however, to one remark you made earlier, you have always been involved strongly in what you would call religious endeavors in almost all lives. Those lives that were not involved with religious endeavors were religiously involved in the opposite endeavors, in your terms, and we will go into that later. The holy soul turned inside out is some fleshpot, let’s put it that way, but you have always been involved with questions concerning good and evil and you had two existences in two civilizations in Egypt. And in one of these your friend over here (Daniel) was involved. Now, I cannot go into that reincarnation this evening, it is too late, and you would not benefit from it for you are not ready, either of you. It is not a fascinating story to be told for your edification and enjoyment so I hope you will enjoy it when it comes, but it will help when you can understand it.

I am much more concerned, however, with your reaction to the material that Ruburt read this evening and with all of your reactions to it. Now if it seems to any of you that one class member is monopolizing a session, then remember what I have said earlier. The questions that are spoken here by one are the unspoken questions of many, and so it has seemed to many of you that you were in some way from your birth tinged by evil. And in one of your particular past lives you not only believed this but taught it, and you believed it heartily.

Now almost, almost all of those who come to these classes have at one time or another, been already engaged in such endeavors. There have been many other classes and you have all been a part of them, not necessarily with me but with others. You have long had an interest and so certain aspects will hit you all very strongly. You all know what association is, it operates not only within one life, but between lives, in your terms; so that words and phrases spoken now will trigger the memories but these memories will become alive if you allow them to.

(To Natalie.) I have one message for our friend over here behind me, however, and it is quite simple. When you do not know what else to do, relax and tell yourself that other portions of yourself do know what to do, and they will take over. Give yourself some rest and remind yourself that in many ways you are a very successful person as you are. Now success does not necessarily involve great intellect or great position or great wealth, it has to do with inner integrity, remember that.

... bid you to reexamine your definition of the word violent and all the connotations that you have placed upon it. According to your terms, God never would have created any creature or any reality or any universe. He would have been too passive to do so. You equate violence with evil. Now, when I speak to you, I do not equate violence with evil anymore than I equate a summer storm which is violent with evil. And that is what I want you to understand.

I do not think much of those terms either. Think in terms of creativity. Your last try was horrendous. And (very loud voice) I will not tell you this is creative violence. Now, the very sound of my voice, as our dear friend knows, assaults the silence of the room and yet it is creative. And the vitality that sweeps through this form assaults the silence and yet it is creative. And that is what I want you to understand. Good, in your terms, can be as noisy as I can be noisy. And guilt can be a very silent and quiet and passive and gentle thing indeed. And that is what I want you to understand. And now, after having said good evening many times, out of the goodness of my heart, for I am not weary, I bid you once again a blessed and violent good evening.