“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

What happens is this—you have an attempt to exchange camouflage realities. The original beings entering your plane cannot appear within it as themselves, their atomic structure is not the same as yours. Distortions must therefore occur in order to make any contact possible and indeed, distortions must occur in order to make these contacts possible. So you are greeted with a certain set of sense data. You then try to figure out what is happening from the sense data that is presented to you, but the sense data, you see, means that the event is already to some extent distorted. The physical vehicles that are often perceived are your interpretation of the event that is actually occurring.

Now, our friend back here (Ned) could well appear, you see, as a UFO in another aspect of reality, and frighten the inhabitants. Is it a bird, is it a plane? No, it is Super Ned. But you forget consciousness is the reality and the only true vehicle, and no part of your consciousness is imprisoned within you and it materializes in one aspect or another. Now, I use the word materializes because it makes sense to you but the word itself is distortive because it predisposes an appearance within matter materialization, and yet all realities, as you know, are not physical.

Now, our friend back here (Ned) has tried his disappearing act for some time and a good deal of the time he does it without knowing that he does it, and on occasion he tries it deliberately. Now it is theoretically possible, for example, theoretically possible for him, or any of you, to disperse your consciousness and become a part of any object in the room or to fly apart, for example, disperse yourself out into space without leaving your sense of identity. Now this is not practical, in your terms, and yet many of you do it to gain refreshment while you are sleeping.

Not only because you have grown beyond that point but because in yourself you sensed still some sympathy toward the beliefs.

(To Joel)... she (reference to Alison) was a male, however, at the time, and when I said you were not ready I meant that you were not ready. In that time you were very concerned with the idea of power, and it is one that you are still deliberating with. Not political power but personal power and as to how far you should go to convince others of ideas in which you believe and how far you should go in propagating ideas in which you no longer believe. And in dealing with the sense of power that you also realize you experience in both instances. Now, when you are ready to deal with that problem, then I will give you the rest of the reincarnational material. And I mention this only to show you that I was not making an innocuous general remark to put you off. And now, dear friend, I bid you a blessed and a fond and a violent good evening .