“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You have no problem relating to other people. You have your greatest difficulty in relating to yourself, and you avoid meeting yourself in your sensitivity sessions, and you only use them as an excuse so that you can tell yourself that you are going as far as you should. You are telling yourself that you are a good girl. Now, until you are ready to look deeper within yourself that is fine, but I want you to realize what you are doing. You are avoiding your inner life as completely as you can afford to.

If you would look within yourself you would find out why, or if you ask for a private session sometime I might give you some hints, but you have not asked for one, and you have not asked for one for a good reason.

But I want you all to understand something else, and I have said this before. Our Lady of Florence, very nicely for each of you in class, personifies the feelings that each of you have, to whatever degree, involving your inner self. She shows them in an exaggerated fashion for you to look at and so when she speaks, she speaks not only for herself, but for everyone in this room including Ruburt. And now after that jolly little statement, I will let Ruburt hand out last week’s session.

(To Florence.) You have, indeed, been performing a useful service in class but I expect to see it changed. For when you begin to look into yourself you will set the others a fine example, and so you shall.

What happens is this—you have an attempt to exchange camouflage realities. The original beings entering your plane cannot appear within it as themselves, their atomic structure is not the same as yours. Distortions must therefore occur in order to make any contact possible and indeed, distortions must occur in order to make these contacts possible. So you are greeted with a certain set of sense data. You then try to figure out what is happening from the sense data that is presented to you, but the sense data, you see, means that the event is already to some extent distorted. The physical vehicles that are often perceived are your interpretation of the event that is actually occurring.

Now, our friend back here (Ned) could well appear, you see, as a UFO in another aspect of reality, and frighten the inhabitants. Is it a bird, is it a plane? No, it is Super Ned. But you forget consciousness is the reality and the only true vehicle, and no part of your consciousness is imprisoned within you and it materializes in one aspect or another. Now, I use the word materializes because it makes sense to you but the word itself is distortive because it predisposes an appearance within matter materialization, and yet all realities, as you know, are not physical.

Now the atoms and molecules also, my dear scientific friend over there (Arnold), these atoms and molecules, minute as they may appear to you, also carry their burden of consciousness and a responsibility, yet there is a portion of consciousness that can joyfully perceive in a different manner that is not forced to perceive by its nature, but that can playfully perceive as a creative aspect of its being and without responsibility.

I am pleased because you are thinking yourselves this evening, and that is what I want you to do. Ideas have no reality unless you yourselves make them your own. Make friends of them or enemies of them. Fight with them or love them, but use them and experience them and meet them not only with your intellect but with your feelings.

([Daniel:] “I think I understand that all of these different levels of my consciousness then are being communicated, not only by me consciously, but also through telepathic communication.”)

That is true, and also that you are projecting your ideas outward into physical reality and then often behaving as if those ideas were not yours but belonged to another. And, therefore, it behooves you to understand and know what these ideas and emotions and feelings are and not to be frightened of them. And I hope you understand what I mean or I shall be forced to go into another analogy about a flower.

You can, indeed, but do not deny the part of you that wanted to wring the other man’s neck. But you were so frightened of the thought that you immediately inhibited it. Now let us consider that thought and why were you so terrified of it. You were terrified of it because you are terrified of the idea that evil is more powerful than good, and that one stray violent thought of yours was more important and more powerful than the vitality of good. I am using your terms now. Now, say the following happened, at least you were aware of the thought, but say, in your terms, you progressed to the point where you were no longer aware of the feeling.

Indeed, so that your muscles tensed, your adrenaline production increased, you wanted to wring his neck and you stood there and said, God bless you my fine young fellow. May you live a long and merry life. Now, telepathically, our fine young fellow knows exactly what you are feeling at the time. You are the one who is out of contact with your feelings and emotions at that point, however, for at this point of your “spiritual progression” you only imagine that you wish him good. The muscles are already contracted in your body. They are contracted because you have not admitted, in this point admittedly of future spiritual progression, that you wanted to wring his neck, so you say nothing but wish him well.

Now three weeks later we have another encounter and our poor ignorant workman falls asleep again at his chore and our good minister comes by and he looks and he sees the idle one upon the floor snoozing and he thinks, I would like to kick you in the you know where, but he thinks, oh no, I cannot think such an unChristian thought and violence is wrong, so before he even admits to himself what he feels and hiding from himself any acknowledgment of aggression. Instead, he bends down and says, my good man, et cetera, may you live long and hearty and God bless your life and then he pats himself on the back and thinks, I am growing more spiritual day by day. In the meantime, the muscles have contracted ten times because they could not be put into activity before, as the thought behind them was denied.

Our poor man again is aware, subconsciously of the intent, but only to some degree. Three months later you have had a really bad day and you are mad at life in general and now you come and find our poor friend upon the floor, this time, perhaps, asleep at a chore somewhat more important that you wanted done. Now, far be it from me, even in a fantasy, to accuse you of such an act, but you stand here and look at a slattern and this time you are out of your mind. But again, it behooves you to deny your true feelings in order to be spiritual, which is not true spirituality and you say again, God bless you, may you go in peace, and this time the psychic safety valve has had too much. Now the nicest thing that could happen would be that you suddenly blew your stack and kicked him. The worst thing that could happen would be that, once again, you restrain the acknowledgment of your feelings and the pent up and unacknowledged and perfectly natural aggression in the beginning that has now built up, is ready to explode and now you send out a thought form out of all proportion to any of the event that causes your friend severe harm. And all of this because you were afraid that one stray aggressive thought of yours was more powerful than the vitality that resides in each of you.

([Joel:] “In the beginning, with the first example, before we filled and compounded the frustration, the charges, would you have recommended an action like saying, ‘come on, this is wrong and I have probably done this sort of thing myself, but this is wrong and it really bugs me and that we got to get up and get to work here, be honest with him at that level. Would that have prevented these charges?”)

Originally you were not angry enough to kick him. The thought existed but not strong enough to bring about the physical reaction even if you had fully admitted the thought. Do you follow me?

(To Rachel.) You can wink at me but you cannot wink at Ruburt. There is a fine distinction there that I quite understand.

(To Joel) So you are not as bad as I pegged you either, but strongly inclined in that direction. So is everyone else in the room, including Ruburt, inclined in that direction.

It does, indeed, in your terms, but that knowledge is also available to you. Now we cannot cover one topic in an evening clearly, much less 101 topics. I am not Scheherazade nor am I a handy father image or a handy granddaddy image. In reference, however, to one remark you made earlier, you have always been involved strongly in what you would call religious endeavors in almost all lives. Those lives that were not involved with religious endeavors were religiously involved in the opposite endeavors, in your terms, and we will go into that later. The holy soul turned inside out is some fleshpot, let’s put it that way, but you have always been involved with questions concerning good and evil and you had two existences in two civilizations in Egypt. And in one of these your friend over here (Daniel) was involved. Now, I cannot go into that reincarnation this evening, it is too late, and you would not benefit from it for you are not ready, either of you. It is not a fascinating story to be told for your edification and enjoyment so I hope you will enjoy it when it comes, but it will help when you can understand it.

I am much more concerned, however, with your reaction to the material that Ruburt read this evening and with all of your reactions to it. Now if it seems to any of you that one class member is monopolizing a session, then remember what I have said earlier. The questions that are spoken here by one are the unspoken questions of many, and so it has seemed to many of you that you were in some way from your birth tinged by evil. And in one of your particular past lives you not only believed this but taught it, and you believed it heartily.

Now, as Ruburt would call it, your sidekick over here (Joanne) did not go along with your ideas at all, in that life. She was at that time, a male however, and you were a female, and a priestess, and so were you (Daniel). She had an expanding effect upon your personality but you were very given to ritual and to a belief in magical acts and to the idea that existence in itself was evil and wrong and you were, indeed, a member of the sect now called Gnostic.

Not only because you have grown beyond that point but because in yourself you sensed still some sympathy toward the beliefs.

Now almost, almost all of those who come to these classes have at one time or another, been already engaged in such endeavors. There have been many other classes and you have all been a part of them, not necessarily with me but with others. You have long had an interest and so certain aspects will hit you all very strongly. You all know what association is, it operates not only within one life, but between lives, in your terms; so that words and phrases spoken now will trigger the memories but these memories will become alive if you allow them to.

(To Joel)... she (reference to Alison) was a male, however, at the time, and when I said you were not ready I meant that you were not ready. In that time you were very concerned with the idea of power, and it is one that you are still deliberating with. Not political power but personal power and as to how far you should go to convince others of ideas in which you believe and how far you should go in propagating ideas in which you no longer believe. And in dealing with the sense of power that you also realize you experience in both instances. Now, when you are ready to deal with that problem, then I will give you the rest of the reincarnational material. And I mention this only to show you that I was not making an innocuous general remark to put you off. And now, dear friend, I bid you a blessed and a fond and a violent good evening .

I (very loud voice) was not weary  but I was giving in to your all too human flesh. Now I wish you an active peace.