“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(To Sue.) For this one over here, no probable self is at the mercy of negative thoughts of yours.

I do it for several reasons because that is the way I am, in the guise that I choose to use in my communication and also to get everyone over the idea that so-called spirits must be sweet-faced, quiet, sober and dignified. That, for example, is one of my main concerns. I also want you to understand that energy is being used and that energy is available and that the same energy that Ruburt uses is available to each of you but beyond that...

(To Joel) Now, I want our friend over here, our spontaneous friend, to grapple with the ideas of the soul and reincarnational probable selves.

([Joel:] “I love it when you say, what blessings I have to give, I give you. It has gotten to the point now where, I get up there and I am already to say, ‘God bless you’ at the end of the service, and I’m almost ready to say  ‘such blessings as I have to give’ and I really have begun to see now, how absurd the whole practice, not that specifically, but the whole rigmarole had been over the years. That’s spontaneous growth, isn’t it?”)

(To Pete.) Over here we find a connection with Iraq, a strong psychic ability and you hide behind words often, to avoid experience. Not experience with others, or relating with others, but to avoid inner experience. You are accepting secondhand experience through your reading and through the use of your intellect and then attempting to apply it, but without the inner experimentation.

Now, a moment, for we are getting something over here (to Bobby) and also over here (to Natalie).

(To Bobby.) And I hesitate to bring this up but our friend, here in the middle, was a Brother in an order in the 15th century in Denmark and it was a secret order that operated underground, so to speak. The personality has a great humility and a true sweetness. An inquiring mind, but also, because of past experience, can also latch upon an idea and never give it up. All the time thinking that it’s open-minded. Now I am speaking now of any given particular issue, not for example, of an entire mental life style, but beneath the humility a stubbornness; an attention to detail; a freedom of thought on the one hand, but an attention to detail having to do also, with this life when you took care of a sacristy and attended to altar veils and the placement of candles, missals and statues in specific and given places. Also, then, you were one who took care of a church calendar where each given saint had his day and for you, at that time, each day then took on the character of its saint for you believed in this implicitly. A love of fine silver and ornamentation from those days. There is some confusion here, we must break this for over here...

(To Natalie.) For over here in our kind and very excellent secretary. There is a bleed-through of material from an Irish existence as a young boy of fourteen. I see you as a Brian Donlevy, in a town 30 or 35 miles from Dublin in 1831 at the time of a hidden rebellion, as a runner. As a runner between the Catholic Irish and Englishmen and in a time of terror. Two brothers who were priests and yet it seems from what I am getting, that you did what only can be called spy work for them. That matters of money and inheritance entered in and that they were on the side of the English for those reasons. Therefore, you were in a highly ambiguous position. 1831 to 1862. Rather aggressive, hotheaded. I see you playing in the church, mimicking the priest and playing with the vestments. You sired a son at the age of fourteen. Your brothers knew this, the priests, and they used this knowledge to incite you to act as a spy for them.

You know one of these brothers in this existence, as a woman. I will work on this, it is either your mother or an aunt. You are used to taking orders from this person and there is good reason for it. She does not have anything over you now. The child was sired in the past. And do not let her put one over on you. She was far older than you in that life, as the older brother, and used to having his way.