“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

You form or create your lows. Sometimes you choose them for purposes of growth. Other times, they are the results of your own ignorance at any given point and basically unnecessary. If you are in the habit, for example, of deep negative thought then you will attract to yourself negative feelings and experience deep depression. Now, if you learn from these, then from your standpoint, this is a point of growth and you progress. But many people do not learn for some time, in your terms, and continue in such periods when they are not necessary.

I do it for several reasons because that is the way I am, in the guise that I choose to use in my communication and also to get everyone over the idea that so-called spirits must be sweet-faced, quiet, sober and dignified. That, for example, is one of my main concerns. I also want you to understand that energy is being used and that energy is available and that the same energy that Ruburt uses is available to each of you but beyond that...

(To Kyle.) The nature of your own personality also has something to do with your interpretation of mine.

([Kyle:] “You do tend to dominate. You get up there and say do this and this and you are doing well, and you are doing okay, and certainly that does put a certain attitude in people.”)

Then we will let  you take my place. Now, to some extent, what you say is true and yet much of this is not of my doing. The voice mechanism, unfortunately, is something that we must work with and to get my own personality across through the female image and vocal chords, certain adjustments must be made. Beyond this, however, as I believe I mentioned in a few classes, it is not out of the inner sense of my invisible heart but out of the depths of your own psychology that you make me into the image of a wise old man and project upon me authority images that lurk in your own mind. I have always tried to keep you from making this error and always sought to release from within yourselves your own abilities. And told you that knowledge must be directly experienced. You will not learn nearly as much from me as you will through traveling through your own inner self and searching into the reality of yourself for other realities that are also there of which your are unaware. Now my voice is loud but the voice of the inner self is very still and you must be quiet to hear it and so from the loudness of my voice let your self run inward into that silence that is very active.

I remain spontaneous and alive and do not allow myself to be deadened by your projections upon me. Now continue.

You project but your projections are real only to you and do not affect me. Continue.

(To Kyle.) You see that I do not always take the floor. You are lucky I do not use parliamentary procedures.

(To Ned.) Now a few remarks here. You can disappear for fun, you can disappear to create, you can disappear out of curiosity, but do not disappear out of panic.

And now I will do the unthinkable and I will call a class break and you can all tell Ruburt that it will do him good for a change and I hope it gives him a laugh.

That is my spontaneity and my spontaneity is my being here and your spontaneity is your being here and by here, I do not mean this room. Now when I speak under this pressure you spoke of using you must then test your reality against my own and it is a good challenge for you.

([Kyle:] “I would agree, it seems like that is what you do.”)

Time is basically meaningless so that the question cannot be answered in the framework in which you asked it. Each personality to itself has continuous consciousness. Its consciousness is continuous and it knows who it is and it experiences no lapses. Do you follow me?

To explain the analogy that is what I used, but the feeling of continuity is continuous. Now it is also true that for each moment that you exist, in this universe, you do not exist in it. This is not ananalogy but for you there is a continuity of experience. You only accept as real those moments in which you are aware within physical reality.

It is when you are doing psy-time and when you relax your ego enough and when you are spontaneous enough and when you realize that these other realities do indeed exist.

You are presently within one system of reality, one probable reality, the reality that you now know and form physically. Now within that one reality you have reincarnational selves, they belong within the concept of that existence. All probable systems do not have reincarnational existences. Some do and some do not, so that these exist only here, as far as you are concerned for the moment.

And I know I am only going to confuse you but if you have probable selves then you know there are probable universes and probable earths and probable histories of your earth and you see what this is going to do to your concept of reincarnation as you now hold it. So within the system that you know, you also have probable reincarnational selves within those probable historical earths. Now this does nothing to deny the basic integrity nor validity of what you may prefer to call the soul. It simply means that the inner self also is far more creative, far richer, and far varied and much different than you originally supposed.

I hope it was a nice smile. What you should say is, “Let the Gods within you get up and laugh and bless yourselves, do than or unto yourselves, treat yourselves like Gods and so, indeed shall you be,” and then run while they boot you out. I will wave.

I will get the message and I will know what the message is. Remember, do not be too impatient, there is a framework that you can use and you have a position from which you can mold opinion and change the direction of people’s minds, if they are open and ready.

([Joel:] “I keep wondering if I could do it in a more efficient manner.”)

[Sue:] “Will that particular probable self, in a further probable incarnation, have more to do with me?”)

Now you can speak against the intellect as say, it is not good to be too intellectual and we must be intuitive, and yet you do not do it. And so it would help you if you realize that you are often using conscious thought as a blind to hide you from yourself and that there is nothing within the self that you need fear and that the true security of your identity lies within this inner self and that the abilities of which we have been speaking are simply by-products of the inner self, not to be pursued for their own use, but as natural to the inner personality, as hands are natural to the physical self.

(To Bobby.) And I hesitate to bring this up but our friend, here in the middle, was a Brother in an order in the 15th century in Denmark and it was a secret order that operated underground, so to speak. The personality has a great humility and a true sweetness. An inquiring mind, but also, because of past experience, can also latch upon an idea and never give it up. All the time thinking that it’s open-minded. Now I am speaking now of any given particular issue, not for example, of an entire mental life style, but beneath the humility a stubbornness; an attention to detail; a freedom of thought on the one hand, but an attention to detail having to do also, with this life when you took care of a sacristy and attended to altar veils and the placement of candles, missals and statues in specific and given places. Also, then, you were one who took care of a church calendar where each given saint had his day and for you, at that time, each day then took on the character of its saint for you believed in this implicitly. A love of fine silver and ornamentation from those days. There is some confusion here, we must break this for over here...

You know one of these brothers in this existence, as a woman. I will work on this, it is either your mother or an aunt. You are used to taking orders from this person and there is good reason for it. She does not have anything over you now. The child was sired in the past. And do not let her put one over on you. She was far older than you in that life, as the older brother, and used to having his way.

And those I do not have I must, of necessity, withhold.