“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now, I want to know two things; what I want you to tell, two things; why you chose to divulge the particular secret that you did and why you did not choose to divulge another. Why you used one secret and cover up for another. I want you to know the answers to the questions. And those of you who were not present at that session may then divulge their initial secrets.

Now I suggest that we continue where we began and I am highly amused with all the conversation it spontaneously erupted. You have, indeed, appointments with the universe but your first appointment is with yourself and when you have the courage to meet that appointment then begin thinking of the universe for then you will realize that you and the universe are, to a large extent, one but not while you hedge. You know what it will be because I know what you have not told.

Now when you speak these feelings you speak for everyone in the room, Ruburt included. There will always be such points, but your existences that you are aware of, feelings; and that itself is vitality and strength and within the feelings themselves there is creativity and the feelings spur you on. Now you can feel them free, recognize them, allow them their legitimate nature at this point in your reality and then use them. Let them be our guideposts. Do not deny them, but from this will come a   (word lost) that you cannot now understand or comprehend.

([Valerie:] “Why do I? What makes me stand so rigid?”)

You are dealing here, and in this particular case, with probabilities. You had two main levels of development that you could have followed in this existence. They were diverse but in both, in the main, you would have been working toward the same objectives. And in one you would have devoted your existence to studying the inner nature of reality. You would have been contemplative. Now to the extreme you would have joined an order, for awhile, of a religious nature and later you would have left it. You would have had neither wife nor child. Your questioning nature would have followed the aesthetic life with devotion and without deviation.

In the other probability, you would have pursued the same goals but you would have done it to prove the reality within physical matter. The intimate and noble qualities of life that can only be known through emotion of flesh with flesh. The unbearable agony and ecstasy that is experienced through fatherhood or motherhood. This experience alone would drive you to continue to ask your questions and seek for answers. Only the medium or framework of experience would be different.

Now those of you who have families, within that framework if you watch and listen, and you do, there are moments of unbearable and unspeakable agony as you recognize the aloneness of the human spirit in what seems to be an unfeeling universe. And there is also the unspeakable exaltation that you feel and cannot explain, as you watch your children grow and as you feel, even within yourself, the recognition, the spiritual recognition, that comes when flesh meets flesh and this is what you chose to encounter. The voice and the speaker gave you  your alternative. And the children will be taken away as all human children are. In your terms, those who are grown are always taken away, and the voice spoke in those terms, and you made your choice.

You have not told us a secret but I will speak to you first. You are depressed because of your methods. You cut yourself off from the fount of your own creativity and intuition. Allow yourself to feel the spontaneous nature of your being. Do not attempt to control it. Feel the vitality that is within you show itself in those forms that are natural to it whether they be imaginative, intellectual or feeling reality. You are attempting to sidestep in those methods the basic vehicle of your experience at this point. The freedom and spontaneity of spirituality cannot be maintained or even tasted by denying the reality of the physical being. You use the physical being, and from there and from your emotions you become acquainted with other realities. Your own feelings hold within them a fount of knowledge, and you cut this fount off when you attempt to control them. They will lead naturally, spontaneously, to a spirituality that is a natural outgrowth of present experience. In this manner the natural world that you know will become a threshold of what you call spiritual activity and not a barrier to it.

([Ron:] “You asked us about the meaning of our own lives. You wanted candor and truthfulness on our part, and I would like to ask you the same question. What the meaning of your existence in your reality is, the one goal of everything you do?”)

Now the one goal not only of my existence, and I feel this personally, but of all existence is creativity. I do not speak to you, in your terms, because you find it so difficult to understand or experience the reality of creativity and so all personalities, in whatever their sphere of activity, are involved in the nature of creativity. And this involves the creation of further value fulfillment, of consciousness that is not a burden, as sometimes your consciousness seems to be to you, but joy upon which other universes can also rest. The consciousness and creativity of one, while seeming alone, is not alone but is a threshold upon which others may rest, and a framework from which others may grow.

([Ron:] “In your reality do you feel love?”)

Now what makes you ask the question or doubt that any reality could be without it, for it is the basis for any reality that any consciousness knows. If it would not be love, then I would not be here, and if it were not for love, you would not have the planet that you know. Your negative emotions appear to you quite obviously as ill health and wars and desolation, and when something is wrong you recognize them. But the innate love within you, that you are often too embarrassed to express, forms the planet that you know, the physical bodies that you inhabit, the seasons and the reality in which you presently have your existence. And love also forms a framework in which I have my existence. Hopefully, those in my sphere of existence realize that all ends are creative.

([Ron:] “What do you mean, all ends are creative?”)

That even when you are using energy in what seems to you to be a destructive manner you are being creative and cannot avoid it. Now does that answer your question?

I do, indeed, and all consciousness of whatever extent feels love though it may not know the verbal designation for that is the basis of all existence. And there is no existence when you try to separate feeling from reality or consciousness from its experiences. And now it is time for your secret.

([Ron:] “You refer to what I accepted as true?”)

Everyone here knows, each of you know, what I am up to by now, and you know when I am ready to begin to tell you.

(To Molly.) You are minimizing the extent of your own experiences, not realizing them for what they are, and we will return to concepts when you are ready to accept your own emotions.

([Molly:] “What sort of experiences?”)

I expect you to form a new class reality and certain of you will be involved with a joint out-of-body experience and other experiences in the future. The reality of the class, therefore, as it always has, will change. It is not predestined to change—you automatically change it, and I have my finger in the pie also. But had I not inserted these little sessions with emotion, and they are, indeed, fairy tales, then there would have been no chance for any joint ventures such as those that I have in mind and have had in mind for some time. You cannot glide along, however, superficially. You must have trust in those with whom you travel. Some of you have given more than others this evening.

(To Joel) Afterward I would like you to keep some appointment with the universe, quiet and private, not in psy-time necessarily, but alone for your own benefit. With Bill, through automatic writing or alone, and then do what you want with (words lost). I want you to go as far inward for information, inspiration, and data as you are going outward to help others. I want you to enrich your source so that you are not depleted or vulnerable. Because you have abilities, I want you to do this.

It is indeed. You are taking the self that you know for granted without looking beneath it, and you must do this. It is a part of your apprenticeship, and it will enrich you and enrich your source, and that is what I want you to know and realize.