“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now those of you who have families, within that framework if you watch and listen, and you do, there are moments of unbearable and unspeakable agony as you recognize the aloneness of the human spirit in what seems to be an unfeeling universe. And there is also the unspeakable exaltation that you feel and cannot explain, as you watch your children grow and as you feel, even within yourself, the recognition, the spiritual recognition, that comes when flesh meets flesh and this is what you chose to encounter. The voice and the speaker gave you  your alternative. And the children will be taken away as all human children are. In your terms, those who are grown are always taken away, and the voice spoke in those terms, and you made your choice.

It does no good to say that one choice was better than the other, and do not worry yourself with such concerns for you are interwoven spiritually with every atom and molecule that exists within those of your children and your wife. And the spiritual isolation that you feel is a reminder of the inner self that only enters into concourse with the flesh but is of itself independent and knows its origin and remembers even through the eons the miraculous exaltation and agony of recognition that the flesh knows.

You have not told us a secret but I will speak to you first. You are depressed because of your methods. You cut yourself off from the fount of your own creativity and intuition. Allow yourself to feel the spontaneous nature of your being. Do not attempt to control it. Feel the vitality that is within you show itself in those forms that are natural to it whether they be imaginative, intellectual or feeling reality. You are attempting to sidestep in those methods the basic vehicle of your experience at this point. The freedom and spontaneity of spirituality cannot be maintained or even tasted by denying the reality of the physical being. You use the physical being, and from there and from your emotions you become acquainted with other realities. Your own feelings hold within them a fount of knowledge, and you cut this fount off when you attempt to control them. They will lead naturally, spontaneously, to a spirituality that is a natural outgrowth of present experience. In this manner the natural world that you know will become a threshold of what you call spiritual activity and not a barrier to it.

Now you all want to do fine and mighty spiritual things and many of you, as much as possible, want to do these things without facing the self that you know. And in order to have a good framework you must begin with the self that you know, and you must not ignore feelings or emotions, and you must not decide which feelings or emotions you will accept and which you will reject. You will understand them all as legitimate experience and go on from there. You will not hide in concepts, and I will not allow you, any of you, to hide in concepts.

(To Ron.) Now to our new student, your reaction, you see, this evening and your lack of reaction also is connected with the ideas that you have received as to the nature of meditation and spiritual knowledge.

You can, as our friend here (Sally) calls and then falls back. But you know, as I have told you often, that spirituality is not a thin-blooded intellectual concept divorced from the emotions that you know. That spirituality is as dignified as brother Theodore’s idiot flower is dignified, or as dignified as a wasp, or as our beloved monster here (Willie the cat). That it does not need a dour face nor long dark thoughts, and that it speaks like our friend over here.