“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

In the other probability, you would have pursued the same goals but you would have done it to prove the reality within physical matter. The intimate and noble qualities of life that can only be known through emotion of flesh with flesh. The unbearable agony and ecstasy that is experienced through fatherhood or motherhood. This experience alone would drive you to continue to ask your questions and seek for answers. Only the medium or framework of experience would be different.

Now those of you who have families, within that framework if you watch and listen, and you do, there are moments of unbearable and unspeakable agony as you recognize the aloneness of the human spirit in what seems to be an unfeeling universe. And there is also the unspeakable exaltation that you feel and cannot explain, as you watch your children grow and as you feel, even within yourself, the recognition, the spiritual recognition, that comes when flesh meets flesh and this is what you chose to encounter. The voice and the speaker gave you  your alternative. And the children will be taken away as all human children are. In your terms, those who are grown are always taken away, and the voice spoke in those terms, and you made your choice.

Now the one goal not only of my existence, and I feel this personally, but of all existence is creativity. I do not speak to you, in your terms, because you find it so difficult to understand or experience the reality of creativity and so all personalities, in whatever their sphere of activity, are involved in the nature of creativity. And this involves the creation of further value fulfillment, of consciousness that is not a burden, as sometimes your consciousness seems to be to you, but joy upon which other universes can also rest. The consciousness and creativity of one, while seeming alone, is not alone but is a threshold upon which others may rest, and a framework from which others may grow.

Now you all want to do fine and mighty spiritual things and many of you, as much as possible, want to do these things without facing the self that you know. And in order to have a good framework you must begin with the self that you know, and you must not ignore feelings or emotions, and you must not decide which feelings or emotions you will accept and which you will reject. You will understand them all as legitimate experience and go on from there. You will not hide in concepts, and I will not allow you, any of you, to hide in concepts.

Now what makes you ask the question or doubt that any reality could be without it, for it is the basis for any reality that any consciousness knows. If it would not be love, then I would not be here, and if it were not for love, you would not have the planet that you know. Your negative emotions appear to you quite obviously as ill health and wars and desolation, and when something is wrong you recognize them. But the innate love within you, that you are often too embarrassed to express, forms the planet that you know, the physical bodies that you inhabit, the seasons and the reality in which you presently have your existence. And love also forms a framework in which I have my existence. Hopefully, those in my sphere of existence realize that all ends are creative.