“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now, I have a few more suggestions that I am sure you will all be very excited about and I do, indeed, have some issues planned for you and so tonight I have another question.

Do not answer so quickly. Feel it through.

Now you are being more honest. I would give you a medal, but I do not have one available. To establish the overall position of trust between yourselves and the group, if you want to establish it, then the answer was important. And to everyone else in the room so will your own answers be important.

Now when you speak these feelings you speak for everyone in the room, Ruburt included. There will always be such points, but your existences that you are aware of, feelings; and that itself is vitality and strength and within the feelings themselves there is creativity and the feelings spur you on. Now you can feel them free, recognize them, allow them their legitimate nature at this point in your reality and then use them. Let them be our guideposts. Do not deny them, but from this will come a   (word lost) that you cannot now understand or comprehend.

All of life as you know it is vulnerable. Existence as you know it is vulnerable, but if you are vulnerable to sorrow and doubt you are also vulnerable to exaltation and joy, so do not attempt to close off from your feelings or be ashamed of them or deny them. Creativity is always vulnerable and within the vulnerability of your present life is the key to your own infinite existence. The leaves are vulnerable to storms, to temperature, and they bend gently. They give and do not attempt to stand rigidly against their nature.

([Valerie:] “Why do I? What makes me stand so rigid?”)

You only imagine that you stand rigid. You are afraid of fear. You are openly vulnerable, not only to fear, but to the creativity that courses through your being. You move quickly, emotionally, and there is nothing wrong with this. Let yourself go and do not be afraid of your feelings. Do not try to make a rock. Do not try to make yourself into a cold star from which you can observe the rest of humanity and be safe from it. That would not help. Do not believe it, feel it. Simply feel it, and let the beliefs go. The beliefs will come when you allow yourself to recognize all your feelings. When you set up blocks against the negative ones, you also set up blocks against the creative spontaneous ones. Now, let the arm go. That is natural enough for now. You will find it, it is within you. Do not try too hard. Take it for granted that you already know it. For you do, and it will find you.

Now those of you who have families, within that framework if you watch and listen, and you do, there are moments of unbearable and unspeakable agony as you recognize the aloneness of the human spirit in what seems to be an unfeeling universe. And there is also the unspeakable exaltation that you feel and cannot explain, as you watch your children grow and as you feel, even within yourself, the recognition, the spiritual recognition, that comes when flesh meets flesh and this is what you chose to encounter. The voice and the speaker gave you  your alternative. And the children will be taken away as all human children are. In your terms, those who are grown are always taken away, and the voice spoke in those terms, and you made your choice.

It does no good to say that one choice was better than the other, and do not worry yourself with such concerns for you are interwoven spiritually with every atom and molecule that exists within those of your children and your wife. And the spiritual isolation that you feel is a reminder of the inner self that only enters into concourse with the flesh but is of itself independent and knows its origin and remembers even through the eons the miraculous exaltation and agony of recognition that the flesh knows.

You have not told us a secret but I will speak to you first. You are depressed because of your methods. You cut yourself off from the fount of your own creativity and intuition. Allow yourself to feel the spontaneous nature of your being. Do not attempt to control it. Feel the vitality that is within you show itself in those forms that are natural to it whether they be imaginative, intellectual or feeling reality. You are attempting to sidestep in those methods the basic vehicle of your experience at this point. The freedom and spontaneity of spirituality cannot be maintained or even tasted by denying the reality of the physical being. You use the physical being, and from there and from your emotions you become acquainted with other realities. Your own feelings hold within them a fount of knowledge, and you cut this fount off when you attempt to control them. They will lead naturally, spontaneously, to a spirituality that is a natural outgrowth of present experience. In this manner the natural world that you know will become a threshold of what you call spiritual activity and not a barrier to it.

([Ron:] “You asked us about the meaning of our own lives. You wanted candor and truthfulness on our part, and I would like to ask you the same question. What the meaning of your existence in your reality is, the one goal of everything you do?”)

Now the one goal not only of my existence, and I feel this personally, but of all existence is creativity. I do not speak to you, in your terms, because you find it so difficult to understand or experience the reality of creativity and so all personalities, in whatever their sphere of activity, are involved in the nature of creativity. And this involves the creation of further value fulfillment, of consciousness that is not a burden, as sometimes your consciousness seems to be to you, but joy upon which other universes can also rest. The consciousness and creativity of one, while seeming alone, is not alone but is a threshold upon which others may rest, and a framework from which others may grow.

Now you all want to do fine and mighty spiritual things and many of you, as much as possible, want to do these things without facing the self that you know. And in order to have a good framework you must begin with the self that you know, and you must not ignore feelings or emotions, and you must not decide which feelings or emotions you will accept and which you will reject. You will understand them all as legitimate experience and go on from there. You will not hide in concepts, and I will not allow you, any of you, to hide in concepts.

([Ron:] “In your reality do you feel love?”)

([Ron:] “What do you mean, all ends are creative?”)

([Ron:] “Yes. Do you, yourself, feel love?”)

I do, indeed, and all consciousness of whatever extent feels love though it may not know the verbal designation for that is the basis of all existence. And there is no existence when you try to separate feeling from reality or consciousness from its experiences. And now it is time for your secret.

([Mark:] “You said if we needed help in projection to call on you, and I can still do that?”)

I will when you try harder. Simply give yourself the suggestion that you will know. Do you remember the dream? Look at the dream and tell yourself the meaning will come to you.

Now there are relationships still to be worked out among you, and I will point them out. For before you have a firm foundation of trust these matters must be both faced and settled. They may appear to you, or they may affect some of you to varying degrees, but, in any case, you must work them out. Now one was mentioned by you earlier this evening (Gert). Do you follow me? The other involves this one over here (Bette) and brother Joel. These are the main areas at this point.

I am talking first of all of Bette and Joel, then I am speaking of you and Sue and then I am speaking of you and Joel. Now do we have that settled? Now I am not going in depth, I am merely bringing to the surface feelings of which I know, of which you may or may not be aware, but in which you are involved. Is that clear?

(To Joel) Afterward I would like you to keep some appointment with the universe, quiet and private, not in psy-time necessarily, but alone for your own benefit. With Bill, through automatic writing or alone, and then do what you want with (words lost). I want you to go as far inward for information, inspiration, and data as you are going outward to help others. I want you to enrich your source so that you are not depleted or vulnerable. Because you have abilities, I want you to do this.

([Joel:] “Bill said I ought to do some real serious looking, real soon. Is this connected?”)

It is indeed. You are taking the self that you know for granted without looking beneath it, and you must do this. It is a part of your apprenticeship, and it will enrich you and enrich your source, and that is what I want you to know and realize.

Instead, imagine yourself clearly receiving inspiration. You are thinking negatively when you are thinking mainly about your problems. See them solved imaginatively in your mind. Do not emphasize your limitations.