“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now, as Ruburt mentioned earlier, we have some strong elements present. You can, indeed, be involved in some group out-of-body endeavors. Now all of you can be involved to some degree or another but you must want to be involved. You must desire the experience or you will not have it. It does no good to tell yourselves that you will leave your body fifty times before you sleep, if in the back of your skull you are thinking, I am terrified. The inner self will put up a caution light. You are not ready.

The answer is so simple that you will not admit it to yourself. You do not want to remember. You can tell yourself that you do, but until you really want to remember, you will not.

Now this is why you cannot explain to our Lady of Florence the nature of time, because she has closed off her feeling in this particular line. Now you cannot verbalize what I am or what happens in this room, but then, you cannot verbalize what you are or what happens within yourself or within your mind. And there are journeys that each of you embark upon, and you do not know in words the nature of the destination, and you do not know when you arrive at this destination, and you do not know when the destination is no longer a destination but a way.

Now we use words because you deal with them. You deal with the words physically but your inner self has no need of verbalization. What each of you experience as you listen to me cannot be expressed in words, and what each of you feel of yourselves when you are alone and when you are with others, cannot be put into words. You know but you cannot find the words.

Now what I tell you, to some extent, must be distorted because when I speak I use words, but the inner self interprets the words that are spoken. You do not need the words. You do not need me to sit here and speak to you but physically you think that you do and so I am here. Physically you believe that you are here and so you are here but other portions of your identity are in other places and other times, and I use those terms very loosely. They are only to make you happy because the words, times and places, have a meaning to you but in your basic reality you do not know times nor places.

Each of you now as you sit before the image that you call Jane Butts or Ruburt, each of you now are, indeed, as ghostly as you may think that I am for you form your own physical image about you and you pretend it is your real self. You are, in other words, apparitions and in a gigantic mass hallucination you all agree upon the people that you see, and you all pretend that you are the selves that you see but you are far more than this.

Your best indication in the manufacture of time can be your emotions. A vivid emotional experience can be more present than an event that happened ten minutes ago, in your terms, that was not vivid nor important. Emotional intensity can defy your ideas of time and place. Now, when you get a copy of the session underline this sentence. Do not think about it but feel about it.

Now we will return you to your breaks. You are pussyfooted over the minutes and the hours. You use the minutes and the hours like a floor. You think they give you support, but the floor can become transparent if you simply look and keep your wits about you. There is no such thing as a minute or an hour.

(Seth II:) We seed universes and consciousness and your animals and your plants. The consciousness that composes them, is endowed by us. The warm-blooded creatures that you know are seeded by our consciousness. They are the children of our dreams and so, also, do you seed other realities and other systems. They are the children of your dreams. You have little contact with these but always the inner self remembers its offspring. Therefore, also do we remember you and your system. Consciousness releases its abilities in ways that you do not understand and yet from your own mind, springing from your own dreams, other systems of reality emerge as you have emerged from our dreams. Your system can be likened to a probability system that was latent always within our own capabilities but was not actualized within our experience.

(After break, Seth:) Now, the time has come for some of you, and I have said this before, to go beyond kindergarten class so that we can sneak in a third-grade lesson now and then and that is what we have been doing. What our friend, the Dean (Theodore) here said, does indeed apply and also I acted as a translator. Such messages will be given in slightly different terms. They will often be devoid of the comfortable images that you all know. They are, therefore, less distorted. You like the word warm-blooded, but where do you think your emotional abilities come from. They come from realities that you, as yet, cannot understand and you would not comprehend them and so they must be translated.

Now the time has come for you to outgrow parables, but this will take considerable stretching of consciousness on your part, and considerable work on our part. I am a mediator as well as teacher. I stand between what you are and what they are, in your terms, and that last phrase is a loaded one. Whenever I say “in your terms” the phrase is a loaded one, so be prepared and remember it when you read our sessions.

Now also realize that all consciousness is individual and sacred and that none of this is meant to deny the integrity of any individual consciousness. Do not therefore feel negated or alone for you are anything but alone.

The other personality is myself without the illustration. You like me far better in disguise. I have not lived many, many lives without a deep understanding of your own kind of reality and problems, but I have not had many other existences that are not physical without a deep understanding of the nature of reality as it is not apparent to you now. As you reach out to find the nature of reality, so do these other beings reach out to understand the nature of realities that they have created. And each of you create more realities than you understand.

Now humor is a method that I use to appeal to you. On the other hand, I understand humor. These other beings do not understand humor but they do understand joy, and you would not understand the nature of their cosmic laughter.

And we will get to it but it does not look as if we will get to it tonight. Now in our class sessions there are many things with which I want to deal and when each of you are ready for personal material you will get it.

There is a point I want to make, however. Now in my book, my own book, there are two chapters in particular. One is called “Death Conditions in Life”’ and in it I make several points that will somewhat answer your questions. First of all, when you sleep, in your terms, you are as dead as you will ever be. You are operating in out-of-body conditions. You are experiencing other dimensions of reality. You are quite as busy as you are in your daily life but because you do not remember in the morning, it seems to you that you are largely unconscious. In this state, therefore, you are learning. You have every opportunity to study, to look upon your past lives, in your terms, and benefit from them.

All of our regular students attend classes, whether you know it or not. I get you here once a week, as a rule, but I also get you in other dimensions of reality. You all have tasks to perform. Some of you do help persons who have immediately left this system to acclimate to the new conditions. You are smarter when you are asleep than when you are awake. You are learning as much then, therefore, as you do between lives. That is a point that I wanted to make. In your waking existence you are simply focused upon physical reality. When the body sleeps you are no longer focused within it, instead you embark upon other adventures and, in your terms, you advance your own education.

(To Theodore.) And I expect over here, for our Dean, a return to the Great Hall and there you should receive your own answer to the question that you asked earlier, but if for any reason you do not, then I will answer it for you. I am interested in helping you develop your own abilities—therefore, I answer those questions that I think you will not be able to answer for yourselves for a while and those answers that you will receive yourselves I leave open. I like to make you work, it is good for you.

You did not need to wait for me to say good evening. You need not stand or sit upon ceremony, but in case you are waiting for me to formally bid you good evening I do now here forthwith do so. I bring the meeting to a close.

Now I have a PS. (To Rachel.) The answer in regard to your pussycat must come to you intuitively and it is available. It will be given to you in the dream state and again in the morning if you remember. I can give you the information but it is better that you receive it on your own. The consciousness that was the cat is far freer now than it was. It has embarked upon new and higher organizations and is aware of greater abilities.

Now there is something you should do, not now, but shortly, and I will tell you what it is when the time comes. And now even my PS is finished.

(To Sue.) There was not a close—this is a PS to a PS—not a close, but a definite relationship between us in the past and it is for that reason that you were brought to Ruburt, to the classes. And it was because you knew me in one particular past life and had empathy toward me then that you are so aware of me in the dream state.