“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I have said many of these things in my own way before and will undoubtedly say them again—not only through this physical image. For when this physical image makes the transition to other realities, then I will speak through another form as each of you has spoken through other forms. I remember the forms through which I have spoken and you do not, but look at it this way: The child that you were in this life has a far different form than the person you are now, and yet you spoke through that form.

Now I do not want to monopolize your conversation and so I will let you take a break and when you are ready for new material I will give it to you.

I do not wish to make that kind of impression upon young ladies. Now I am indeed a harmless gentleman. A gentleman without a body must be harmless, so why do I meet such fear as I always do in this class. I’m trying to make one basic point and the point is that energy and being are not sober, that the personality continues to exist, that those characteristics of mine which I considered mine, in your terms, at one time still continue to exist, and that your personality will also continue to exist. Now when I make such efforts to be jolly, then I do not understand how I can possibly frighten you. Young women always frighten me, but you do not see me quaking in terror. I hide my feeling.

(To Arnold.) (Words lost) he gets confused, but I do not get confused. He is in a trance, but I am not in a trance. You are all in trances, however, for you believe in this improbable physical existence and therefore I must couch all my language so that it makes sense to you, who believe in this fantasy in which you now live.

It is always mental and emotional. But then you do not need words either. It is always telepathic. But your own communication is telepathic. (This sentence was written in the margin of the Yale copy.) It is only you that believe you need words, otherwise I would not have to deal with them and words can be very deceiving and quite confusing. I should tell you that while I use the word telepathy we do not communicate in mental words. We do not need words, mental or otherwise. Thoughts in your terms suggest words and we do not need words. We communicate whole concepts and emotional states. Now I am having an entire chapter on that subject in my book.

Now as class members should know, our friend Ruburt is not possessed and no energy has taken him over. There is instead a corner within his personality that is open like a transparent window, a warp into other times and dimensions. He has abilities that he uses. He realizes that from me he gets information that he would not otherwise possess and he can be here in a moment.

Now you see, he is hardly possessed. He can carry on a conversation with you while I carry on a conversation with you. When you think in terms of possession, you are thinking again in antiquated terms of good and evil. Trust your intuitions. The energy that is within you gives you your existence and meaning. It is responsible for the birth of your children. In fact, if any one has any complaints, I have; I’m possessed by Ruburt.

He has a body a lot longer than I do. Now I am joking because I never could miss a good joke, so do not take that seriously.

But they have no way to treat me. Because they are behind me, the scene is too good to miss and they have never seen a psychology like your own. For if my reality now seems strange to you—your reality seems very strange to me and do not forget that these now familiar characteristics by which you know me are only those that I use as teaching methods. The portion of myself that I show to make my point.

It would be easy for me to give you a set of rules. Some of you would be only too glad to follow them for you would not have to face your own responsibility and your own responsibility is to look within and to use your own abilities. For you, each of you, will develop in your own way through endless eons in your terms. You think that an atom is beneath you or a flower. You have 500 times as far to go. You will develop in ways you cannot now understand and you develop as you unfold, as you use your abilities. You will find your own road. You will even make your own truths. For you are expected to make new ones. Truths are not trees that you discover in the forest. They spring up ever new. All That Is is not static or it would be dead; it is ever changing as you are.

Now I do not know if I should answer that question seriously for you or give in to my humor.

Alright now.

It is the idea behind the Catholic conception of guardian angels. Now why these personalities should be envisioned as overgrown birds is beyond me for everyone knows what birds do on rooftops.

There are many gradations and distinctions, however, you see. Now since all of you are white, when you see a black man you think of a black man and forget his individual characteristics. So when you think of spirits, in your terms, you think of spirits without the individual characteristics and there are many that would be comparable in terms of an analogy only. Do you follow me?

([Gert:] “And I think my question is now, if l go back to teach little children the Catholic concepts of mortal sin, hell, etc.”)

Now. There can be a hell—I’ve been there several times—and there can be a limbo. But these are not places, they are spiritual states and even in those terms, hell is not eternal. They are the results of ignorance. Hell, for example, could not exist unless you have the concept of a heaven. There would be nothing to compare it with. Hell is being blocked and knowing you’re being blocked from using your abilities; your abilities of creativity.

([Gert:] “Now when you say that about creativity.... What then about planned parenthood? The use of contraceptives to deliberately prohibit a new life?”)

A service. Now this is too complicated to handle in an evening. However, since I have nowhere made any statement on such a weighty problem, I shall here do so for the statements are needed regardless of humor. Simply on a physical level the animals have sometimes more sense than you do. They listen to the inner voice, and they do not overproduce. They set up safeguards that are automatic and instinctive. Any true evolution of your species as such is dependent on evolution of consciousness and spirituality. If your world is overpopulated, you can reduce yourselves to a state of consciousness that existed, in your terms, eons ago from which you would then again have to learn to emerge. Only certain persons are tempted to return when the world is over-populated. They are not stable. They are persons who returned too soon. They are then already erratic.

Now this situation did not simply arise. You brought it upon yourselves to teach yourselves a lesson. You brought it upon yourselves to bring yourselves to a new step of spiritual and psychic evolution. You had to realize that a certain amount of spirituality was necessary if the inner psychic self would grow. You brought it upon yourselves so you would realize that you were blessed with a planet upon which your species could grow. You brought it upon yourselves so that you would realize despite all your stories (shouts really loud!) that you have not been given domination.

The atoms and molecules within your bodies and the consciousness within them have dwelt as flowers in the field. The actual atoms and molecules that are within your arm at this moment have been within the cows that you have eaten and the flowers upon which you now walk. The air that you now breathe in this moment has come from cosmic dust down through the universe to this room. You are not alone. You will learn the sacredness of consciousness. You will learn to be responsible for life. You will learn to protect and cherish life as you know it and the plant life as you know it.

Now many of these matters do not concern you. You are well-dressed and well-fed. But many men and women are indeed starving. You cannot consume your planet. You will not be allowed to consume your planet. Free will is yours, however, and if you decide to ignore these inner realities you can destroy your planet and it will do you no good to cry to a God, for the God would not have destroyed your planet. You will have done so because you do not realize the sacred nature of consciousness.

It will now or later and the child who will be born, will be born. If an individual is meant, in his terms, to be born to you as a child, if he has decided to do so and if you have decided to have him as a child, if your past relationships for example have set up this situation, then the situation will take place.

I like your sense of humor!! There would be, however, another kind of arrival. Now Ruburt has questions he wanted to ask some of you.

You could have seen him with your physical eyes at that time. Now you could not for he is resting and he deserves it—but it was your fear that prevented your receiving the proof of the immortality of his personality. There was nothing to fear. He was trying to tell you that he was free and to do it by a characteristic gesture that you would understand. Instead, you see, you gave in to those superstitions regarding the dead and you were afraid to look. Fear—because fear sets up barriers. Now life and vitality are joyful and it makes no difference whether or not you have a body. Your existence is not dependent upon a body and your father tried to tell you this.

To him he is resting but in his dreams, for he dreams as you do, he attempts to reach you, and only your fear prevents you from realizing his presence more fully. Any person who is in another dimension is saddened when they realize that you think that because they are dead they are frightening, and they do not understand—for always before you have treated them in an entirely different manner and now you find them something to fear.

Now far be it from me to keep you all from a well-earned sleep. So I will bid you all a good evening and I give you those blessings that are mine to give.