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ECS2 ESP Class Session, May 5, 1970 18/120 (15%) Gert Florence Arnold Doug Brad
– The Early Class Sessions: Book 2 Sessions 1/6/70 to 12/29/70
– © 2008 Laurel Davies-Butts
– ESP Class Session, May 5, 1970 Tuesday

[... 18 paragraphs ...]

(To Arnold.) (Words lost) he gets confused, but I do not get confused. He is in a trance, but I am not in a trance. You are all in trances, however, for you believe in this improbable physical existence and therefore I must couch all my language so that it makes sense to you, who believe in this fantasy in which you now live.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Florence wanted to know when Seth speaks to other personalities in his realm does he do so mentally.)

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

Now as class members should know, our friend Ruburt is not possessed and no energy has taken him over. There is instead a corner within his personality that is open like a transparent window, a warp into other times and dimensions. He has abilities that he uses. He realizes that from me he gets information that he would not otherwise possess and he can be here in a moment.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

Now you see, he is hardly possessed. He can carry on a conversation with you while I carry on a conversation with you. When you think in terms of possession, you are thinking again in antiquated terms of good and evil. Trust your intuitions. The energy that is within you gives you your existence and meaning. It is responsible for the birth of your children. In fact, if any one has any complaints, I have; I’m possessed by Ruburt.

([Gert:] “He doesn’t sound it!”)

He has a body a lot longer than I do. Now I am joking because I never could miss a good joke, so do not take that seriously.

[... 12 paragraphs ...]

([Brad:] “Is he a hard taskmaster?”)

If he is a part of my entity you know that he is a hard taskmaster.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

There are indeed. Both in this reality and others. Ruburt, though he does not know this yet consciously, is also in another class in another dimension of reality—for I teach him while he is asleep. He does not talk back that way.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

It is indeed and he has assignments and his class is one of his assignments and he is one of my assignments.

[... 7 paragraphs ...]

You are sleeping. He is not.

[... 47 paragraphs ...]

It will now or later and the child who will be born, will be born. If an individual is meant, in his terms, to be born to you as a child, if he has decided to do so and if you have decided to have him as a child, if your past relationships for example have set up this situation, then the situation will take place.

([Brad:] “Not as a play on words—but is it conceivable he’ll come back on another plane?”)

I like your sense of humor!! There would be, however, another kind of arrival. Now Ruburt has questions he wanted to ask some of you.

[... 3 paragraphs ...]

He was there and he wanted to reassure you. He wanted to let you know that he still existed but your fear prevented you from seeing him.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

You could have seen him with your physical eyes at that time. Now you could not for he is resting and he deserves it—but it was your fear that prevented your receiving the proof of the immortality of his personality. There was nothing to fear. He was trying to tell you that he was free and to do it by a characteristic gesture that you would understand. Instead, you see, you gave in to those superstitions regarding the dead and you were afraid to look. Fear—because fear sets up barriers. Now life and vitality are joyful and it makes no difference whether or not you have a body. Your existence is not dependent upon a body and your father tried to tell you this.

([Gert:} “You say he is resting, yet at different times I’ve had the feeling in the house that he might try to make the same contact.”)

To him he is resting but in his dreams, for he dreams as you do, he attempts to reach you, and only your fear prevents you from realizing his presence more fully. Any person who is in another dimension is saddened when they realize that you think that because they are dead they are frightening, and they do not understand—for always before you have treated them in an entirely different manner and now you find them something to fear.

[... 6 paragraphs ...]

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