“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

I am being maligned. I have spoken to our Lady of Florence over here many times and you could have explained to our new student what I mean. I should be quiet and let you do so. You do indeed choose your own environment and your own life circumstances. And before this life you have already set those challenges that you will meet. But you also are endowed with free will and there is no punishment except [for] those of you who choose to punish yourselves. There is no punishment in those terms. You grow in understanding, and if you kill, then it is necessary that you learn what it means to be a victim and so you become a victim if you choose. You may indeed learn what it is to be a victim in other ways. You must learn how to use the consciousness that is yourself.

You said earlier that everyone is looking to find themselves, and as our regular students should know, there is only one place to look, and you begin with yourself. All That Is is not male or female, and I am sorry to upset anyone. All That Is is indeed energy and yet all energy is individualized so you are not dealing merely with impersonal energy but neither are you dealing with a personality in the terms usually used. For you do not understand as yet what personality is, and when you understand what you are, then you will have some small glimmering of what All That Is is and basically you will find All That Is within yourselves.

You will find All That Is also within a leaf and within a flower. But only when you try to understand what a leaf and a flower are. If you believe that a leaf is a piece of physical matter without consciousness, without glory, then you will learn nothing from it. But if you realize that a leaf is a portion of All That Is then you will realize what communion is.

I have said many of these things in my own way before and will undoubtedly say them again—not only through this physical image. For when this physical image makes the transition to other realities, then I will speak through another form as each of you has spoken through other forms. I remember the forms through which I have spoken and you do not, but look at it this way: The child that you were in this life has a far different form than the person you are now, and yet you spoke through that form.

(To Florence.) I had a fine conversation with you in your dreams three nights ago but you are such a hobble-gobble that you did not remember and you have hurt my feelings.

I do not wish to make that kind of impression upon young ladies. Now I am indeed a harmless gentleman. A gentleman without a body must be harmless, so why do I meet such fear as I always do in this class. I’m trying to make one basic point and the point is that energy and being are not sober, that the personality continues to exist, that those characteristics of mine which I considered mine, in your terms, at one time still continue to exist, and that your personality will also continue to exist. Now when I make such efforts to be jolly, then I do not understand how I can possibly frighten you. Young women always frighten me, but you do not see me quaking in terror. I hide my feeling.

(To Arnold.) (Words lost) he gets confused, but I do not get confused. He is in a trance, but I am not in a trance. You are all in trances, however, for you believe in this improbable physical existence and therefore I must couch all my language so that it makes sense to you, who believe in this fantasy in which you now live.

It is always mental and emotional. But then you do not need words either. It is always telepathic. But your own communication is telepathic. (This sentence was written in the margin of the Yale copy.) It is only you that believe you need words, otherwise I would not have to deal with them and words can be very deceiving and quite confusing. I should tell you that while I use the word telepathy we do not communicate in mental words. We do not need words, mental or otherwise. Thoughts in your terms suggest words and we do not need words. We communicate whole concepts and emotional states. Now I am having an entire chapter on that subject in my book.

But they have no way to treat me. Because they are behind me, the scene is too good to miss and they have never seen a psychology like your own. For if my reality now seems strange to you—your reality seems very strange to me and do not forget that these now familiar characteristics by which you know me are only those that I use as teaching methods. The portion of myself that I show to make my point.

For of real love, you know very little; of real understanding, you know very little; but you will learn and you are learning and learning itself is discovery and joy. Remember also, that any abilities that you see displayed by the personality of Ruburt are abilities of human personality, latent in each of you, are to be used as you will and as you wish for you are possessed, possessed by ideas that are limited and that restrain you. Ideas that prevent you from using your own splendid energy and abilities. I have said this many times and doubtlessly I will continue to say—when Ruburt’s familiar body is some 40 years older and my voice in comparison to Ruburt’s sounds like quite a young man (shouts)—That my energy should remind you of the energy that is inherent within yourself and that any energy that sweeps through this small frame comes from the same energy that gives you your vitality and strength and that should bring you joy and fulfillment.

Lately you have begun to awaken. Each of you do have a personality assigned to you but it will be awhile—either attending classes or reading before you realize the nature of these personalities.

You may not at this particular point of development have the rapport, in your terms, that Ruburt and I have. But you are constantly being instructed and guided whether or not you realize it. But then you will also instruct and guide others and all of you in the sleep state do this.

You all do indeed, at a lower development than your own. I would make a remark here but I shall not to show you that I am pure of heart, invisible heart or otherwise.

Now. There can be a hell—I’ve been there several times—and there can be a limbo. But these are not places, they are spiritual states and even in those terms, hell is not eternal. They are the results of ignorance. Hell, for example, could not exist unless you have the concept of a heaven. There would be nothing to compare it with. Hell is being blocked and knowing you’re being blocked from using your abilities; your abilities of creativity.

Now many of these matters do not concern you. You are well-dressed and well-fed. But many men and women are indeed starving. You cannot consume your planet. You will not be allowed to consume your planet. Free will is yours, however, and if you decide to ignore these inner realities you can destroy your planet and it will do you no good to cry to a God, for the God would not have destroyed your planet. You will have done so because you do not realize the sacred nature of consciousness.

We do not use such words as condone. The problem is an individual one. If you believe that abortion is evil and have one—it will be an evil. It is not basically evil, but that makes little difference to you if you believe that it is.

([Brad:] “Not as a play on words—but is it conceivable he’ll come back on another plane?”)

He was there and he wanted to reassure you. He wanted to let you know that he still existed but your fear prevented you from seeing him.

You could have seen him with your physical eyes at that time. Now you could not for he is resting and he deserves it—but it was your fear that prevented your receiving the proof of the immortality of his personality. There was nothing to fear. He was trying to tell you that he was free and to do it by a characteristic gesture that you would understand. Instead, you see, you gave in to those superstitions regarding the dead and you were afraid to look. Fear—because fear sets up barriers. Now life and vitality are joyful and it makes no difference whether or not you have a body. Your existence is not dependent upon a body and your father tried to tell you this.

To him he is resting but in his dreams, for he dreams as you do, he attempts to reach you, and only your fear prevents you from realizing his presence more fully. Any person who is in another dimension is saddened when they realize that you think that because they are dead they are frightening, and they do not understand—for always before you have treated them in an entirely different manner and now you find them something to fear.

(Words lost) you experience—as you listen to my melodious tones and look upon my godly countenance, it is not myself. As I have explained in my book, but also in the Seth material to date, there is a psychological bridge that is constructed not only in this situation but in any like legitimate situation. What you see, therefore, is a representation of what I am. I am not Ruburt. I am myself. In your terms, however, and strictly in your terms, I could seem to be a future Ruburt, and if you were in connection with other more eternal portions of your own personality that you could not materialize in physical terms. This does not mean, however, that the person would not be entirely independent and have an existence completely divorced from your own.