“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(To Theodore.) Now, I simply came to let you know that I was in on your conversation, and because I did not want to have you think that I played your little trick and rob you of the pleasure of realizing that you did it for yourselves. It was an excellent phenomena. Now had the lights been off and candles burning dimly and incense added then, indeed, you would have all had a time. As all of you know, the spirits are somewhat more lively. They do not require any darker rooms than you do.

(To Mary Ellen.) You knew what the message would be before you came here on a subconscious basis and Ruburt, all unaware, has already delivered it to you, and it was in his terms to cool it because spontaneity must progress at its own rate and feel comfortable in both physical reality and inner reality. You are not to go into inner reality like a door to a closet, and close the door behind you. It may be comfortable, but that is not its purpose. Now, your own unconscious mind knew this and you were told to come so that the message could be delivered rather forcibly, so consider this a forcible delivery. You are doing very well.

You are opening up channels to the inner self and, hence, hopefully beyond. Consider then what you are doing quite legitimate as a means, but not an end. Do not take everything you get as the holy word of God. You are working through the subconscious, and you must work through the subconscious in order to clear the channels. To know this does not mean that you should not trust what you are getting. It simply means you should look to it subjectively as well as intuitively.

You are on a pathway and you have a good beginning. There is debris in your way. This is not the fault of the pathway and the debris is perfectly legitimate for what it is so do not be discouraged but go your own way, slower, more calmly, and with inner confidence. Do not question so severely, for underneath you have been wondering whether or not you are reaching only the subconsciousness. To reach the subconsciousness itself is quite an endeavor and worthwhile. You must work through this in order to make communication with other layers.

Now, in all of your minds there is still this conception that what you want to do automatically, because you want to do it, must be wrong because it is too easy. Now reality is easy. This universe is not maintained by conscious thought and if all of you together had to consciously decide ahead of time why the universe should exist, it would not exist, for you would not have made up your mind yet. Be lucky and thankful that the inner self does not have these hang-ups. You see how well I do with your vocabulary.

Many of you would have questioned yourselves for an hour, “Why do I want to go back to bed? It is wicked and lazy and wrong of me to even think of such a thing. How will the world do without me if I am not up and about? The devil deals with idle minds.” And so, at the end of an hour, had you begrudgingly gone to your bed, the inspiration would have long since departed. What inspiration could hang around in such thought? You laugh spontaneously, the Gods laugh spontaneously. They do not stop, first of all, to decide whether it is right or wrong.

(To Florence.) Why is it that you trust everyone else? Anyone with any easy authority, myself included, rather than yourself? I do not want you to think that because I look in any particular direction I am speaking to anyone in particular. Now, you expect me to bawl you out in good terms because you have not been following the pathways within yourself.

Sensitivity sessions, however, offer you an easy outlet. They satisfy a portion of yourself that can say, “I have been to a sensitivity session and I have seen and felt and touched and I have learned, to some extent, to look within myself,” but you are very careful of where you look. And you are not looking in the correct places and you know it and you do not accept the excuses you are giving yourself. You know that I will verbalize them for you, but you do not need any verbalization, and when you are finished dillydallying about then I expect you to come back to class on a regular basis and to get to work.

(To Theodore.) I have a remark for our dean and it is this. You know very well that surprises are being prepared for you in your Great Hall and when you are ready to understand them, you will return. Now you are completing a cycle. After going inward to some degree, to some considerable degree, you are now using your abilities to manipulate physical reality and turn in your outlook into your physical environment using your abilities to help people that you know, and this is excellent. But you will also find it both necessary and enjoyable to return to the inner source of your being, which for you is symbolized as the Great Hall, for it is from there that you receive your insights and your support. And you know this as well as I do.

(To Sue.) I scarcely feel the need to speak to you since I have spoken to you so often in the dream state and thankfully, from Ruburt’s standpoint, you remembered at least one occasion when such communications were taking place, and when you both recorded them. This had to do with the dream of the session.

(To Laurie.) Now what Ruburt said to you I would like to reinforce ten times: It is like a woman in the rain who carries an umbrella, and instead of using it, she says, “Well, it is raining too hard. I do not want to get my hands wet or put up this umbrella.” And so she carries the umbrella and remains soaking wet. So you have not been using your abilities in your family relationships.

(To Sissy.) I will not bawl you out the first night. It is against my principles, and do not be surprised that I called Ruburt a puritan for he is, a strange mixture of a complete primitive and a complete puritan, and if it were not for me he would be very solemn-faced, indeed.

([Rich L.:] “Why do the dead wish to influence the living so much?”)

Most of the dead do not particularly wish to influence the living. Some of us, however, have a particular course to follow as we did, in your terms, in our lifetime. There are many courses that you can follow after death after you have finished your reincarnation. Because when you are finished with your reincarnation, there is not a time when you can say, “There, I have had it. I put in my chips and now I will find peace ever after.” You continue to develop your abilities, but you continue to develop them in dimensions of reality that you do not understand now and so in this existence of mine I am a teacher and I visit other dimensions of actuality such as your own. In this particular instance, I try to affect you so that you will not blow yourselves off the faces of your planet. Because while your planet is dispensable, it is the only one you have right now and there is no use being so wasteful.

In ordinary terms, however, the dead are not concerned with the living except perhaps in the very earliest phases, when their emotional feelings are connected with those they have left. After that, you see, there are many other personalities for them to meet again. Persons that they have known in past lives. Do you want to add to your question?

One, however, was as a merchant in Germany in approximately 1830, the area now around Austria. You have been rather pedantic in several past lives and given in one particularized in Spain, as a priest, to severe attitudes and ideas that lead you, alternately, toward violence and peace. You believed so strongly in principle, for example, that you would do anything to uphold it and there was little leeway in your personality. You were not able to give and take and, to some extent, that rigidity is still present in your personality. However, you are learning now to mitigate to some extent. You are, in other words, opening up in those areas. You were involved in the Inquisition. Your ideas of good and evil were highly polarized. You are making strides in this existence although you have also encountered some difficulties along these lines for it is not easy for you to be flexible, psychically or spiritually. And you are learning to do this despite the difficulties that have been involved.

(To Rich.) You are in your fifth reincarnation. It has nothing to do with terms of elevation. The class members will clear that up for you.

You have a very significant reincarnational past, and you will either discover it for yourself, or I will give you some hints involving it in later sessions. You are doing well, however, and you are progressing in inner experiments. Certain ideas of yours that you have been harboring for some time will be coming to fruition, and you can trust them.

(To Ned.) The man with the eyes behind the chair—your psychological time experience was quite correct, and it should show you what you can do when you want to. He wants to do it on his own, you see.

Creativity is its own responsibility. It follows laws that are beyond those that you realize or recognize. It answers needs that consciously you do not know exist. It has its own validity, and it will always work. The defeatist kind of literature, to which you are referring, often serves to bring to the foremost of the mind the deepest fears that have been unrecognized and being unrecognized has done the greatest damage. Also, such information brings issues to the foremost where they will be dealt with. There are gradations of creativity as there are gradations to anything else, but all will be used creatively. And you will get further answers from yourself and doubtlessly from me.

Consciousness has its built-in protection. But when this is not spontaneously admitted and when out of fear of evil it is repressed this is when it gains additional charge. And so for release that it turns into violence, both individually and en masse. You are so afraid of violence that you do not try to understand what lies behind it. Or the creative nature that lies within it. Violence is a distortion of a thrust toward activity and when you realize this you can use it creatively. When out of fear you try to pretend that it does not exist or, on the other hand, you fear it so drastically that you shove it under, then it is magnified and can do damage.

([Theodore:] “If I have a thought some person has wronged me in some way, and I would like to slug him, am I doing that person harm in this reality or in another, and if so, how do I handle this responsibility?”)

If you feel in that way then you should first of all admit to yourself, honestly, that that is your feeling, and as a feeling it exists and is legitimate. Do not say, “I will not feel in such and such a way, or worse, I do not feel this way.” Do not say, “God bless his soul,” when you hate his guts. You are the one who will feel the pain in the guts in that case, and not him. Instead honestly admit the feeling as a reality. Now, if it is strong, use whatever commonplace methods are available to you, a punching bag, yell your lungs out if you prefer, but when you are finished then say, “This is a feeling that I have, it was legitimate. Soon I will not feel the need for such feelings for understanding will change my emotional makeup. Now, the feeling can vanish from me that I have expressed it in a harmless way that I know.” Then immediately forget it and imagine the vitality of the universe as being strong enough and wise enough to absorb your petty violence and survive.

Do not, therefore, exaggerate the situation or magnify it by imagining this feeling as affecting the other person involved. Say, “I feel this way and I must express it at this time or be honest, but he has his protection from my feelings. He is filled with the vitality of life even as I am.” But if you ignore the feeling or pretend that it does not exist, then it is repressed within you and it draws to it all those other repressed violences; minute, insignificant details, seemingly, that gain charge until they fill you and must be expressed. Then you can meet the same individual four years later when the situation is forgotten and react violently and hurt him, where harmlessly the feeling automatically and spontaneously would have been expressed.

I will end our session. What I want to do is to make you realize you can increase your awareness of reality and those experiences you had this evening you can have in your own psychological time experiences to a far greater degree.

Now, I give you all my fondest wishes and those blessings that are mine to give, I give to you. And those of you who are ready to go their own way and do their own thing, I will speak to you later this evening. And Ruburt would appreciate a few words on nice white bond.