“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now, all of you here now know that the dead are not necessarily quiet, and that there is no somber mood necessarily connected with those who are no longer alive, in your own terms.

Now, it is extreme egotism to imagine that you can only be alive if you have a body. You are indeed being closed-minded. The voice that I can use on occasion could shatter the small image through which I speak and the spirit that belongs to your parents could not be contained in one bodily form or two. The spirit of your parents is, of course, free. You are free even while you are in the flesh, and I have nothing against the flesh. I have had some time with it through past lives, and found it very handy, indeed, so I am not prejudiced. You are caught up in conventional ideas of this. It is this that frightens you in your dreams. The spirits of your parents are free. Allow them their freedom and speak kindly to them. You would frighten the ghosts away with your own fear. If you had to go through all that they had to go through to contact a beloved daughter, how would you feel if you were met with fear and terror?

We are not having a long session this evening, a very short one. I simply wanted you to know that the dead can be quite lively, that they are not quiet and somber and that your mother only appeared tired because she knew you expected her to. She did not want to frighten you.

(To Gert.) I did not mean that you could skip over the story line the first time, only that you did not need to re-read it. Now, you may all take your break.

(After break, to Sharon.) Now, your parents do not want you to grieve, they have been trying to tell you that they are as alive as you are. I do not want to hurt your feelings but they are more alive than you are. They came to you because they wanted you to question the nature of reality more deeply than you have done so. They will not come for long. They have their own business to attend to and their own reality to meet and their own challenges to accept, but, they are coming to you so that you will be aware of their continued existence; and also so that you will be aware of the nature of your own inner self which is as free of your physical body now as they are.

They are indeed. They are beginning to work as they never worked before because they realize they have potentials to fulfill, and they did not realize this earlier. And they want you to know it now that you have your own potentials to fill and you can begin now.

And again, we will not look at anyone in particular but we can give clues, can we not? We have, therefore, a touch of rebellion. Now, rebellion can be a good thing if you know what you are rebelling against. And if you are rebelling, it behooves you to know what you are rebelling against. It is very important to understand the nature of your own inner self and symbolism behind action. For when you understand the symbolism behind your own actions, then you begin to understand yourselves and you know the reasons behind your actions. And when you act you do not deceive yourselves, you know quite clearly I am acting for thus and thus reasons. Oftentimes you fool yourselves. You think you are acting for a particular reason but the action is for an entirely different reason, and therefore, you must learn why you act as you do.

All of those methods will allow you to do so. You are now dwelling in physical reality. It behooves you to help others. When you take from others, you take from yourselves. When you give to others, you give to yourselves.

The affair works out not only to your advantage, but to hers. There is also a distant relative of which I believe you know nothing, on her part, who will later come into the picture. Now, the name Olive will be important though this may not necessarily be the name of the relative.

Now, for example, say you have a deep problem. You may create a physical symptom so that you wonder why you have the symptom and it forces you to ask questions that you would not otherwise ask. You may instead, however, commit an error so that you are suddenly brought up short as you say, “Why did I do this thing which is so unlike myself?” In that case, the error or the action is the same thing as a symptom for it makes you question your own motives and look into your own spirit. Therefore, it is indeed a way of learning.

(After break, to Sally B.) I will bid you all good evening, and whenever you are ready I will be ready to help you out of your body, but you are a slowpoke and you get frightened.

(To Ned.) I was in your last experience as a probable self of my own and you did not recognize me, but that is all right and I will not hold it against you.

And I expect some progress on all your parts, and I do seriously expect you to read and reread the material in the book. Now, read it and let yourselves be, let your imagination follow where the material leads you. Let the material be as a launching pad to lead you into other realities, for even though you think you do not understand it intellectually, intuitively you will understand it, for I have written it in precisely that manner.

Now, I would not have any husband standing around for his wife because of me. I wish you all, therefore, a hearty good evening, and remember that the dead have a vitality that would put you to shame and allow your own parents to smile when they visit you. My heartiest regards to you all and a fond good evening.

(To Sue after stating she had a headache.) You are simply upset over the implications of the probable selves and that caused the headache. Tell yourself that you are doing well in the reality, that you are using your abilities, that you are helping your husband use his and that you have brought to birth an individual who will use his very well. You do not need to feel guilty of the creation of any probable selves. They come into reality with problems, but all of you come into reality with challenges that you have set ahead of time, in your terms. You have given them the gift of existence, they will learn how to use it and develop their own abilities in their own way, for you have also given them individuality which means they are not yourselves, but variations on yourselves. They have many facets of reality and fulfill them often.

Many personalities do, but when you came into this existence, you came into it with problems and challenges you gave yourself and these probable selves exist in the same manner. You have given them a foundation and a history and an identity as a framework, but from this framework they will grow and learn and develop and without your creation of them they would not exist. Would you, therefore, deny them reality in order to deny them pain? Then the headache can vanish.

You want to create a perfect thing. If you want to create another personality then you think in terms of a perfect personality and the perfect personality does not exist, for perfection in your terms means death. When you think in terms of perfection, you think in terms of purposes already achieved, none coming after; but existence makes its own new purposes that arise of the joy and exaltation, as well as pain and challenge. Therefore, you have given birth in more terms than one. You see, because of the creative nature of your personalities, even when you thrust a pain apart from yourselves and give it as a heritage to a fragment personality, you give it, also, your creative power and your hopes. You cannot help but do it and so you do not set these personalities adrift without hopes, without potential.

Their fears, believe it or not, are handled much more effectively than your own.

He is doing very well, but in the case of children, in most but not all, they are able to handle their fears. In a strange manner they are not afraid of their fears. They accept their fears as they accept a chair, or a rock, or a face and then they deal with them. But they are not afraid of their fears in the same manner that you are. Remember, consciousness has its own protection, its own vitality, and trust in the vitality of your own consciousness and of your own way and that is the answer. For you have a vitality within you and you have only to call upon it and it comes to your aid. This applies to each of you. It is only when you fear you do not have this vitality that it betrays you, and then it does not betray you, but you betray it. You have all the energy, all the ability, all the power and all the strength you will need within you to face each and every situation and be the selves you want to be. You have only to know and understand this and you can bring up from yourselves energy such as you never dreamed.

([Derek:] “Earlier today I was working on some clay work I was doing for someone else. I had already done one and found I could not do it again because I had spent all of my creative energy on the first and could not do another one like it. Is this what you mean by betraying my own ability to do it again?”)

I will close our session. However, each of you are here because you realize you are shadows of your own true selves. You want to bring into physical actuality the true selves that you know are yours and as long as you have this desire, the desire will find a means to completion. It is only when you lose the desire that you are in deep trouble. There is no reason why, following the material and following your own individual ways, you cannot step out of the shadows of yourselves and become the inner selves that you know that you are. And this is what I expect of each of you, and this is what each of you expect of yourselves. Now, if you have any serious questions, I will answer them.

He was a probable self of your grandfather’s and he kept in touch with you, and you were able to see him because of your own abilities. He noticed you, even as you noticed him, and in his probability he wondered who you were, but he liked you. He was a portion of your grandfather that your grandfather as you know him, could not be, and in many ways he was much freer than your grandfather. Now, he had a hobby and he made small dolls. These were dolls made of wood and into them he projected all of his creative energy, and he made a doll that looked like you, and he called it Susan without ever knowing where he got the name. He did not know it was your name, nor who you were. He lived in Germany in his reality. He was born in his reality in 1831 and died in 1897. But you were able to see him. In out-of-body states, he projected into your reality. We will give you more information on it as we are able to.

You need not do so. Once you realize that your guilt has no basis then it can dissolve. It is only when you do not understand it that you become frightened and project it in such a manner. You are creating the guilt, and through understanding you can learn to dissolve it for it will simply vanish.

And now with thoughts of peace I leave you, but sense within yourselves your own vitality and realize that the true source of peace and vitality is within each of you. You have only to be quiet and look within yourselves to discover it and you can do it making far less noise than I do.

Now, at any time you can get out of your own reality and see your own lifetimes and see that they all exist simultaneously. Follow those thoughts and as you read the material in the same way let your imagination take wing.

It is very good and the more proficient you become in psy-time the further you can travel from three-dimensional reality. In your terms, and simply as an image, the further up you can go that not only was there one stack of cards, but many other stacks about it.

Indeed, other portions of your own identity, and as you come even higher you would see that there were other stacks far above the stacks that you originally saw. Now, there is no reason why each of you cannot experience reality, why each of you cannot travel out of the dimensions that you know. Now, in doing so you will find that the personality is as different as, say, this table viewed from different angles and discover all facets of identity with which three-dimensional reality is by nature ignorant. Now, in the dream state you do this, but you can do it in the waking state, and you can do it in times of reverie. You can catch glimpses of your own multidimensional reality, but you must escape three-dimensional existence momentarily in order to do so.

Now, you can return to yourself with all kinds of knowledge. You can regenerate your physical system with the knowledge that you have attained; but do not necessarily expect this knowledge to be intellectual for the three-dimensional brain will not be able to translate all of it. The effects, however, will be felt in the three-dimensional body. It is a good analogy. Those are teaching methods and mark them well.

And now, I do indeed wish you good evening. We have generated much energy. Use it for your own benefit as you sleep and give yourselves suitable suggestions.