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(Ruburt:) “Ijust know it’s false security to stay in the group.”
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(Ruburt:) “Because you have to go beyond that group at that time. Besides, there are two people in that group who are not really friendly. While they are here in this room now, frankly, they were not friendly at that time. I was one who was friendly at that time. It is only because I was there and you were there at that time, that you can now realize this. This is apparently some kind of neurosis that you picked up that you can get over now ... and only that you progressed so far in the end that you can. You have the opportunity to make adjustments and to leave the group when the night comes. You have the same sort of thing that Jane had, but Jane is getting over it egotistically in this life. Although Jane’s ... was so strong she had to egotistically become more permissive. The sense of resistance has to do with the neurosis picked up in that time.
“In that time, you did not leave the group and you should have. Now you have the opportunity to go back and leave the group. It is as if in your terms, you see, you could go back to a period of this life where you should have acted in a different way and didn’t. Well you have the opportunity now to go back into that existence and make it different in the present. Because you can change—now this is in our physical terms—you can change what we would think of as the past through actions in our present. Do you understand me?
“The past in our terms doesn’t cause present behavior, because you can go back now into that past and change it in our present. You will have the opportunity to do it because of your intuitive understanding, and this is something that most people haven’t developed enough to do. Now actually that circle and those people are as real as this room seems to the rest of you. Right now this room doesn’t seem very real to me. Now you can if you want to—and without any kind of coercion—look up and see Seth’s face. And in the face you’ll find confidence to leave the group at that time. The confidence you find then will serve you now and help you in the daily life that you think you are leading now.”
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(Ruburt:) “Starting with yourself, counting yourself, the third person down to your left at that time was in conflict with you. The fourth person beyond them was also in conflict with you and you were frightened of them. And because of them you stayed in the group, lacking confidence to go ahead.”
[... 13 paragraphs ...]
(Conversation back and forth between Rachel, Ruburt and others about leaving and not leaving past group and present group.
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(Seth:) First of all you will not leave this group because you do not want to. You will work out your problems in the last group, and I will help you do so if you want me to.
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(Seth:)You quote me. If you remember that you have no problem, then that is the answer. You will not leave this group. If you want to, you will leave the other group—and with confidence. In one probability you have already done so.
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