“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

[...] John brought with him confirmation of some of Seth’s predictions given in the 439th session, to Jane’s pleased surprise. [...] John is going to go over the session material, using his recorder, to sum up Seth’s predictions to date re Searle.

[...] Ruburt is Seth’s entity name for her. [...] Questions arose out of the discussion, and Seth returned in a couple of minutes to answer some of them rather vehemently if briefly.)

Now, I have lived and died many times, and you must admit (Seth speaks strongly and humorously, forcefully, eyes open) that you can sense my vitality; and so I can tell you that the vitality of the boy exists in as vital terms. [...] (Seth pointed to Dave.)

[...] Seth spoke rather rapidly this evening, and I missed notes in a few spots, which will be indicated. [...]

(Earlier in the week Jane received word that her editor wanted an Introduction from her for Seth’s book, and an Appendix. She wondered if the 592nd session would be suitable, and I told her that I thought Seth had planned it that way. [...] We decided to leave it entirely up to Seth to produce whatever material he wanted for the Appendix.

(“Sure; that’s why I get the triangle effect with Seth Two,” she exclaimed. “Only when I’m in a Seth Two trance, the coordination point is in a different direction. [...]

[...] Seth has insisted from the very beginning of our sessions that the law of entropy doesn’t apply, and that there are no closed systems.)

(I didn’t think Seth heard me; there was a burst of traffic noise through our open living room window just as I asked the question. [...]

1. Originally Jane said “world” here, where I’m sure Seth wanted her to say “universe.” Anytime I make such a change in Seth’s copy, or insert a clarifying word or phrase as though it came from him, or might have, the alteration is in brackets [like this]. Occasionally Jane or I may recast a sentence of Seth’s, but this isn’t necessary even once per session. [...]

3. I’ve known Seth planned to discuss evolution—that sensitized subject—ever since Jane tuned into the title of his new book a couple of months ago. However, my interest in one of my favorite fields of inquiry lay relatively dormant until Seth confirmed the title earlier this month (September); then I felt the impulse to jump right into producing notes on the subject. Better wait, I told myself and Jane, until we had an idea of how Seth is going to handle his own material on evolution.

So why do Jane and I think we’re on to something with the Seth material—that it can help if given the chance? Why haven’t others—our scientific, religious, and political leaders, or those in the fine arts, say—come up with ideas similar to those espoused by a Seth, and why aren’t those ideas common today? Seth’s kind of information must have surfaced innumerable times, I think, and for many reasons fallen short as broad coherent systems of thought. [...]

[...] Adding to the humor of the situation is the fact that we’ve had people write or say the same thing about the Seth material. [...]

(I think these changes in Jane during sessions are caused by her creative reception of a portion of an entity, an essence, that we call Seth, and by her own ideas of what this certain segment is like as she casts it in the masculine gender. Her transformation as Seth is original, and absorbing to watch and participate in. Regardless of degree, Seth is uniquely and kindly present. [...]

(Seth speaks with an accent that’s hard to pinpoint. [...] Seth once humorously commented that his way of speaking was actually due to his own “cosmopolitan background,” acquired through many lifetimes. [...]

[...] She said she was glad Seth had begun work on his book. “For ages in the past,” she said, “whenever I thought Seth wanted to start the book, I was afraid to let him do it.”

(In beginning these notes, let me mention that there are certain definite changes in Jane when she is in trance and speaking for Seth.

2. I didn’t finish this little note until June, 1973: Seth discusses probabilities in Chapters Fourteen and Fifteen, and reincarnation in Chapter Nineteen, although both subjects are mentioned elsewhere in the book. Also see The Seth Material and Seth Speaks.

[...] During break Jane received some insights from Seth as to what would follow in Chapter Eight — that, for instance, when good thoughts from an individual’s present life were activated, they would draw upon similar ones from his or her reincarnational personalities. [...] I couldn’t recall Seth presenting the concept in just that way before. [...]

(We’ve been especially interested in such material since Seth referred to the “deaths” of atoms and molecules in the 625th session in Chapter Five, but we haven’t asked for more detail because the subject matter is somewhat outside the scope of this book. [...] When Seth finishes Personal Reality we plan to ask him to reconcile such data from our world with the root assumptions, or basic agreements, in his own reality.

(Those who care to might see Seth’s discussion of internal electromagnetic sound and light values in the 625th session referred to earlier, as well as his material on EE [electromagnetic energy] units in Chapter Twenty of Seth Speaks.)

(It is of interest here to note that in the 134th session Seth also announced that I had painted a likeness of him. [...] I have not asked Seth about the discrepancy yet of course, but Jane feels they both represent different facets of the Seth entity or personality.)

(Lorraine was not consciously aware of the questions she has evidently been considering, according to Seth, although she said she is aware of the ideas she has about the Seth material.

[...] Seth/ Jane was highly amused while delivering the above paragraph. Strangely, as far as I recall no one had ever mentioned the possibility of Seth laughing, myself included.)

[...] He had just begun when Seth came through again, loud and clear. [...] It was obvious that she and Seth enjoyed the proceedings immensely. [...]

[...] On the chance that Seth might speak briefly I readied my note paper. [...] Even by 8:55 Jane still had no idea whether she would hear from Seth.

[...] She also felt that somehow Seth had overridden her to some degree in order to get the material through. Jane said she had cringed, mentally, at Seth’s use of the word infantile. [...]

[...] By the time we obtained treatment for it the time was close to noon, so it seemed there would be no session this evening, or at most a few words from Seth acknowledging the seriousness of Jane’s predicament.

(At 9:00 PM Seth came through. [...]

When I began putting together Seth’s dictation for Dreams, and adding Jane’s and my own notes, plus excerpts from other relevant sessions, it soon became obvious that the entire work was going to be too long for one volume. [...] At first I was sorry for the reader’s sake to think of Dreams being interrupted, yet glad for myself, for in addition to presenting Seth’s book dictation I was given the space in which to develop those other personal and secular themes of Seth’s, Jane’s, and my own that I think add even more dimensions of meaning to Dreams.

[...] Then this afternoon she picked up from Seth that in a new chapter he’d explain how physical deformities are, among other things, manifestations of the great range of abilities encompassed within our species’ genetic pool, and that we retain such flexibility in case wide changes are ever needed. [...] She thought Seth might comment tonight upon the correspondent’s situation.

(Seth used Session 909 as a bridge between chapters 6 and 7 in Dreams. This means that now the session also serves as a connective—a very effective lure, say—between volumes 1 and 2. Indeed, in retrospect it also seems as though Seth, that “energy personality essence,” planned it that way! [...]

[...] The writer has obviously learned much from reading the Seth material, and revealed insight as to why he and his lady had chosen to marry to begin with. [...]

(“As I sat here before the session,” Sue wrote, “I got an impression of Seth that I’d never had before. [...] When Seth came ‘around’ just before the session, it seemed that something within Jane began to crank up, to whirl or accelerate faster and faster until a certain incredibly other speed was reached — a part of Jane’s consciousness that is called Seth.

(“I don’t mean to say by this that I think Seth and Jane are the same personality; rather, my feeling is that this acceleration connects portions of the same consciousness that are normally so diverse as to be two separate personalities for all practical purposes. I can recognize the same feeling of acceleration when I’m writing well myself, or even talking enthusiastically; but the feeling of vast, incomprehensible speed behind Seth’s eyes goes way beyond that. I could sense the notion of speeds very clearly, both in Jane and Seth, and I felt partly carried along by them.

[...] I could almost hear this action; then the Seth personality began to communicate. The Seth Two experience would be an even greater acceleration of this speed, reached at the point of the pyramid effect Jane describes.

[...] This quality also turned up in the session, in Seth’s funny, over-elaborate requests for me to use just the right punctuation and paragraphing.

[...] Naturally we wondered what, if anything, Seth might say about the experience. I also read to Jane just before the session two questions I had written out recently for Seth’s consideration.)

[...] Once, she said, she felt that she was growing “smaller” as she sat in her rocker while Seth spoke. [...] Seth kept on talking, and the feeling passed.

(Seth was still around during break. [...] Jane, who was in the kitchen, hurried back to her chair just as Seth resumed at 9:44.)

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

But naturally, I told Jane recently — again — I chose to become involved with the whole Seth phenomenon in the most intimate ways. I did so because I knew from its very beginning (in late 1963) that this process of discovery with Seth was more than worth it. [...] I added that I’d certainly choose to do the same thing again, and that I hoped to stay involved with the Seth books indefinitely. Granted that Seth’s material may “only” be bringing into our conscious awareness knowledge we already possess and use on other levels, still it’s a fine thing that his material makes us aware of that inner comprehension — and so new dimensions of consciousness become available to us. [...]

3. Seth’s material on individual creativity at once reminded me of a certain passage of his in the private, or deleted, portion of the 580th session for April 12, 1971. [...] (The regular part of the 580th session, incidentally, was for a book, too: Chapter 20 of Seth Speaks.) I like the following quotation so much that I’ve made copies of it for us to keep where we can refer to them — in my case, pinned up on a wall in my studio. This little affair is a typical example of how something good can get lost in the constantly growing mass of Seth material; even with our attempts at indexing, it’s very difficult to keep track of single paragraphs like this:

(The following isn’t dictation, of course, but concerns instead a very vivid dream Jane had the day before yesterday, and Seth’s interpretation of it this evening. We’re presenting that dream material here because it contains elements of general interest, and covers points some readers have touched upon in their letters to Jane [and Seth]. [...]

[...] This is the first time we’ve seen the design, and we like it very much: The long title, along with Jane’s name and Introduction by Seth, are well arranged in subtle pastel colors against a deep blue background. [...]

[...] Seth’s naming a good number of class members as counterparts came as no great surprise to Jane and me — but it did make us more than a little suspicious at first. We’ve been thinking about counterpart ideas since Seth introduced the concept two months ago; see the opening notes for the 721st session. Then, in the 726th session, Seth named Jane and me as counterparts of each other. Although we keep the power of suggestion in mind, on one level we found Seth’s associations quite pleasant for the most part, and, once given, somewhat as we might have expected them to be. Yet I felt no strong surge of emotion, for instance, to learn that Norma Pryor [whom I’ve met but a few times], Peter Smith, and Jack Pierce are counterparts of mine — nor did they when I read Seth’s material to them during ESP class six nights later. Jane’s feelings were pretty similar to mine, when Seth named three students as her counterparts: Sue Watkins, Zelda, and “the young man from Maryland….”

“We’re so used to thinking that our encounters with others are caused by chance — except for those we purposely bring about through choice, such as marriage partners — that Seth’s comments about my students seem a bit outrageous at first: So many counterparts in one room?

[...] And, according to Seth, the same would apply to any group. [...]

(Jane’s own counterparts, Sue, Zelda, Alan Koch, “Maryland,” and myself are all committed to the dissemination of Seth-type ideas, either through professional writing, classes, and/or lecture appearances that extend from one end of the country to the other.

(I had two questions for our portion of the session, and we expected that Seth’s answers would be included in the Appendix of his book. The first question: According to Seth, he, Jane and I lived in Denmark in the 1600’s. I simply wanted clarification of the data on my lifespan, as given in the notes at the end of the 541st session, in Chapter Eleven.

(In the 223rd session for January 16, 1966, Seth said that my name in the Denmark life was Larns Devonsdorf. [...] Seth, a prosperous merchant, traveler, and family friend, was named Brons Martzens.)

[...] She taped Seth’s information, then left when break came at 9:45.

(The second question: Did Seth intend to title Part One and Part Two of his book, as he had his chapters? [...]

(A note here: On page 148, see our interpretation of Seth’s impression, “Anemia,” and Jane’s connecting this with our friend Helga Anderson. [...] Note that Seth merely said that anemia reminded Jane of Helga Anderson; Helga is not given as Seth’s impression. [...]

(The idea in using the same object a second time in succession was to see whether Seth would come up with the same, or similar, impressions, both times. Seth does deal with some of the same impressions in both experiments, using different language each time, and this will be indicated where we think it occurred.

[...] We thought the primitive reference might have conjured up mas-todon, and that this in turn would support Seth’s “Connection with an animal” data in the 257th session. After break Seth tells us we are right about mass, wrong about “todon.”

[...] Seth came through thusly when I asked him about the “Four. [...] Seth agrees after break.

[...] Thank you, Seth. Good night,” I said at 12:01 A.M. and Seth was gone almost at once. [...] Jane said that although Seth hadn’t actually considered my specific questions about psychology after all, they had served as an impetus for the Preface. [...]

[...] Wait — just now as I wrote this I picked up something [from a part of my consciousness other than Ruburt or Seth], to the effect that the projection environment is as focused as mine is, really, but that it’s a probability of mine. Biologically I wasn’t keyed into it in my ‘now’, I was in it and not in it, between focused realities … traveling in or through these fluctuations of consciousness Seth talked about in the last session. [...]

(I discussed with Jane the questions I’d thought of when Seth had commented, above, on “… how limiting previous concepts of psychology have been.”: As a discipline, why was psychology so narrowly developed? [...] I asked if Seth cared to comment.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

1. For Seth on the fetus — its astral and reincarnational attributes, its energy, its growth, its perceptions from inside the womb — see the quotations from sessions 503–4 in the Appendix for The Seth Material. Those sessions were held in September 1969.

In Appendix 12 and its notes there are a number of passages from Seth (as well as a few of my own) that supplement his remarks, in this 727th session, on present form responding to a future time. See, for instance, the quotations from the 690th session in Volume l; Seth discussed the ability of our species to precognitively alter the present from the future. [...]

One might say that Seth continued his own tree data almost five years later, in the 453rd session for December 4, 1968. Jane presented that rather brief session in full in the Appendix for The Seth Material, but from it I’d like to quote these lines:

[...] All the time, we were unaware that Seth had finished Section 5.

[...] At break Lillian commented that she thought Jane’s delivery as Seth sounded Germanic. She also said that when speaking as Seth, Jane tended to use the same gestures and facial wrinkles shown in the portrait I have painted of Seth. [...]

(“Good evening Seth.”)

(Now Jane, as Seth, pointed to Bonnie.) One I have known vaguely in my own past. [...]

[...] Many times before Seth has told us he lived a life in Denmark in the sixteenth century.)

[...] By the Jesuit and the cat lover Seth meant of course Bill and Peggy Gallagher, who have witnessed quite a few sessions. Jane and I soon noticed that Seth did not refer to Lorraine very often, even when she was a witness, and have speculated about the reasons for this. [...] Our thought has been that if Lorraine kept coming to sessions, sooner or later Seth would speak to her.)

(The last sessions in which Seth dealt with Jane’s ESP book were the 178th and the 180th. [...] Seth first mentioned the sale of the ESP book by name in the 92nd session. [...]

(One of the questions Lorraine had at break, in relation to Seth’s statement about helping her, was whether Seth would help through Jane, or through Lorraine herself directly.

(I might also add that we recently learned of other people hearing Seth’s strong voice during the unscheduled 190th session. [...] It will be remembered that a young couple from next door heard Seth, and came over to see if anything was wrong. [...]

[...] I wanted a word from Seth on what our reactions should, or could, be, in light of yesterday’s session about living in the moment.

[...] The other was Seth’s comments on a very vivid and long dream I’d had last night.

[...] I had left Artistic in 1972, to concentrate upon helping Jane with the Seth material. [...]

[...] I also felt that the idea of authority was somehow connected with my shaky right hand, and since this aspect of the dream wasn’t discussed today, I’d like Seth to comment on it tomorrow if he has a session. [...]

On some relatively few occasions, for example, Ruburt has been able to contact what he calls “Seth Two.” [...] (Long pause.) There is a much closer relationship, in that I recognize my own identity as a distinct portion of Seth Two’s existence, where Ruburt feels little correspondence. In a manner of speaking, Seth Two’s reality includes my own, yet I am aware of my contribution to “his” experience.

(Because of the press of other matters following the 753rd session — my work doing the notes for Seth’s “Unknown” Reality, Jane’s involvement in writing a new introduction for one of her own books that’s coming out in a new paperback edition, and a stream of unexpected visitors — we didn’t hold any sessions for several weeks. [The paperback in question is The Coming of Seth, originally published in hardcover as How to Develop Your ESP Power.]

(Then in the 754th session, on August 25, Seth gave an excellent dissertation on what he called “the stamp of identity” — explaining how the individual psychically marks certain exterior aspects of reality and “makes them his or her own,” in tune with personal inner symbols. Later in the session Jane felt that Seth was taking her on a guided tour of Jerusalem, way back in the first century A.D. None of this consisted of book work, though, so the session remains in our files along with other material that we hope to publish one day.

(An hour before she went into trance this evening, Jane told me that she could get several channels from Seth, each one concerning a different subject, and that “we’d better see” which one came through tonight. Then just before the session started, she said it would concern dictation on Seth’s new book.)