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(It isn’t known for sure that Christ and Paul ever met. Paul was converted several years after Christ’s death; before that he had been a zealous persecutor of Christians. Nor does it appear that John and Paul met.

His rigidity prevented the spontaneity necessary for any true great religious release. He fell, instead, into the trap of provincialism. Had he performed the role possible, he could have been of benefit to Paul. He was a probable personality of the Paul portion of the Christ entity.

In their dreams they were in contact. Consciously Paul remembered many of these dreams, until he felt pursued by Christ. It was because of a series of recurring dreams that Paul persecuted the Christians. He felt that Christ was a kind of devil who pursued him in his sleep.

(In the 586th session, earlier in this chapter, Seth stated that by the year 2075 the third Christ — Paul or Saul — would have enacted the Second Coming, exerting of course a profound effect upon religion and world history. Jane thought a period of less than a century was much too short a time to encompass so many dramatic changes. She wanted me to ask Seth if she had distorted this data while delivering it.

(Within the last few days Jane has lost several teeth, necessitating help from our dentist, Paul O’Neill. [...] When I checked his home phone, Paul told me he’d taken the day off; he offered to look at Jane here at the house. [...] After he’d left, we could see that in actuality Paul’s visit had offered all that Jane could have desired, under the circumstances; we hadn’t asked for any of it, even his preliminary visit to the house to examine Jane this time—although he’d done that on a couple of previous occasions, again without being asked by us.

It was originally Ruburt’s loyalty to you that led him to see Paul in the beginning, because Paul had been friendly to you and you liked him. That feeling dissolved Ruburt’s fear of Paul as a dentist. [...]

[...] Jane said she thought Paul O’Neill has strong healing abilities.

Briefly, Paul is a good man, quite concerned in his own way about the welfare of his fellows, and trying to help them in a very practical way. [...]

(Seth’s material on Paul O’Neill’s cottage came about because of our conversation with Paul this noon as he checked Jane’s lower teeth here at the house. [...] The price of the older cottage is around $35,000, I believe, and I don’t recall Paul saying outright that they wanted to sell the cottage. [...]

(“Our dentist, Paul O’Neill, visited us after lunch today, as I’ll explain in the notes following the session. The session itself springs from Paul’s visit also.)

I would heartily suggest that you and Ruburt consider (underlined) the possibility of buying Paul’s cottage. [...]

[...] A place of relative privacy, and yet one in which you would not be unknown or isolated, one in which in fact the 458 West Water Street connections would continue to operate, with Paul of course as mediator. [...]

[...] We looked forward to seeing Paul O’Neill around 6:00 PM. [...]

(Jane was getting more upset—here, she said, she’d had no session, no motions, and Paul was coming at supper time. [...]

[...] Maybe, we thought, we could get supper finished before Paul showed up, if we got started with it a little early. [...]

(We did get started on supper a bit early—but Paul O’Neill didn’t show up at all. [...]

(Our discussion at break concerned several other points I thought readers might be interested in: One was the zealot designation Seth applied to Paul. At first I’d thought he was going to say there was a connection between Paul, or Saul, and the Zealots, one of the religious sects the Jewish people had been divided into in Judaea in the first century A.D. The Holy Land was occupied by the Romans then, and Paul was a Jew and a Roman citizen. [...]

Paul also represented the militant nature of man, that had to be taken into consideration in line with man’s development at the time. [...] It is therefore appropriate that Paul be present.

(1. Seth had intended the word zealot, as applied to Paul, to be descriptive of his temperament — not a reference to the Zealot sect. A note, added later: More was to come on Paul and the Zealots, though.

The man, historically now, was Paul or Saul. [...]

(10:02.) Paul (Saul of Tarsus) had his vision. Now the vision (in which Paul not only saw the light of Christ, but heard his voice) happened in the world of fact. It occurred—but Paul did not see, or communicate with (long pause), a person of divine heritage, sent by his father to earth, who lived the life of the official Christ, and who was crucified. Paul had a vision in response to the needs, desires, and dictates of his own psyche as it was connected to the world of his time, following the patterns of stories about Christ that he had heard that had begun to release within him a great yearning that was, in that vision, then, expressed.⁴

4. In the New Testament, see Acts 9:1–9, wherein Luke the Evangelist describes the conversion of Paul on the road to Damascus. Jane had told me earlier in the week that she didn’t think Paul had received a vision or communication from Jesus Christ.

[...] On Wednesday Jane had several lower teeth extracted here at the house by Paul O’Neill. [...]

(This referred to Ann Diebler’s escort, Paul Sinderman. Paul holds a job in Norfolk, VA. [...] Paul has been in at least one auto accident that we know of.

(The two young couples, Marilyn and Don Wilbur, and Ann Diebler and Paul Sinderman, witnessed the unscheduled session of November 5,1965. [...]

[...] This is a reference to the Saturday evening of dancing, which was planned in advance by us with the other two couples, Marilyn and Don Wilbur, and Ann Diebler and Paul Sinderman. [...]

[...] We had also forgotten that we met Marilyn and Don Wilbur first at the dancing establishment, and had time for our first drink before Ann Diebler and her escort, Paul Sinderman, arrived.

[...] Already, Paul O’Neill has loaned her two books on the history of dentistry....)

[...] It purported to come from the “world view” of Paul Cézanne, the famous French artist who died at the start of this century.

[...] So, the material I received didn’t come from Paul Cézanne per se, but from his world view.

That book, The World View of Paul Cézanne, was published by Prentice-Hall in 1977. [...]

For Ruburt’s class try the following combinations with the large table: Venice, Paul and Sheryl; Shirley, Venice and Sheryl; Ruth, Joan and Paul. [...]

1. An obvious example here is the conversion of the Apostle Paul (Saul of Tarsus) on the road to Damascus around A.D. 36, a few years after the “death” of Jesus.

(As we sat for the session, Jane reminded me that she thought Seth would do an introduction tonight for her own book on Paul Cézanne. [...]

(Now Seth moved from his own book to this new subject — Jane’s The World View of Paul Cézanne — with ease and obvious zest. [...]

(Her reference to the French painter, Paul Cézanne, involves an experience that she began just the other day. [...]

[...] Specifically, though, this is what happened: Quite suddenly in the predawn hours of December 11 she began to write an automatic script that purported to come from the artist Paul Cézanne, who lived from 1839 to 1906. [...]

[...] This contradiction was reinforced in 1972, when Pope Paul VI declared before several thousand people that the devil is a distinct, actual being.)

Such (pause) “communications” with the gods or demons, St. Pauls or Hitlers, represent in such instances dramatized, exaggerated personifications of the portion of the personality that is at the head of the chain of command at the moment.

(I called Paul O’Neill at his home to ask him to arrange to take care of Jane’s lower teeth. [...]

[...] Nevertheless, Paul O’Neill’s son David was raking leaves as I left the house. [...]

[...] And we don’t even know yet when Paul O’Neill will be in to take care of having her lower teeth relined. [...]

[...] It was Paul O’Neill. [...]

[...] Fire is seldom gentle, and John the Baptist was as filled with fire as Paul.

Often Paul, or Saul, seemed to be where he was not, for example. [...]