[...] Seth talked about two men connected with me in the past in various ways; I would meet these men at the party. I did meet two such men, and they were together, also as Seth predicted. [...]

(Both men approached me at the party, at separate times, and introduced themselves; both recognized and called me by name; I did not recognize either of them. Seth could develop this material, since I do not know how one of these men “influenced my life at one time,” etc. [...]

(10:00.) Physicians, perhaps, can be used as an example of men who do have a conscious knowledge of the body’s workings. They should indeed then be the healthiest of men. [...]

[...] You have categorized by part, certainly it seems, the great part of emerging knowledge, when in your terms taboos were broken and medical men were allowed to dissect corpses, to see what was before hidden. Yet again, men who felt they had the fleetness of the gazelle, the heart of the lion, or whatever, did not need literal knowledge in your terms. [...]

[...] Medical men are taught that certain muscles or organs do thus and so. [...]

There were fully developed men — that is, of full intellect, emotion, and will — living at the same time, in your terms, as those creatures supposed to be man’s evolutionary ancestors. [...] They were not men-to-be, nor did they evolve into men.

I have referred to them at various times as animal medicine men, for man did learn from them. [...]

(Pause at 11:29.) There have also been men — in your terms — more developed than you — in your terms — for your ideas of development are highly erroneous. [...]

(On September 9 Jane dreamed that she spoke to two sick men, saying to them, “Don’t worry. [...] Jane said the puzzling thing about this little dream was that in spite of its unpleasant content she felt no sense of alarm or danger or worry, that indeed she spoke to the two men quite cheerfully. [...]

The men, reassured by Ruburt in the dream, appeared without being old, although the original event of the past life involved men in their 70’s. This was a distortion of the personal subconscious, to add to the seeming separateness of the two dreams.

I will here mention Ruburt’s dream, in which he spoke reassuringly to two men who were ill with cancer by telling them that this material said that he too had cancer.

[...] Two in particular were men, dreadfully afraid of death, and both dying of cancer.

It was not played at the school for these people, I believe two men and a woman. [...]

[...] This makes a total of three women and one male who have heard the tapes besides Pat, whereas Seth names two men and a woman.

[...] This interpretation results in one man and one woman hearing the tape, versus Seth’s mentioning of two men and a woman.)

[...] It is an easy enough matter to shout to the skies: “I love my fellow men,” when on the other hand you form no strong, enduring relationship with others. [...]

[...] Men brought up to be ashamed of the “feminine” sides of their nature cannot be expected to love women. [...]

Women taught to be frightened of the “masculine” sides of their nature cannot be expected to love men, either, and the same kind of behavior results.

[...] (Pause.) While men had their dream bodies alone they enjoyed a remarkable freedom, of course, for those bodies did not have to be fed or clothed. [...] Men could wander as they wished about the landscape. [...]

Men here with rug.

Many men, labeled homosexual by themselves and others, want to be fathers. [...] For example, in many cases the gentle “homosexual” father has a better innate idea of manliness than a heterosexual male who believes that men must be cruel, insensitive, and competitive. [...]

Now: In some historical periods it was desirable in practical terms that a man have many wives, so that if he died in battle his seed might be planted in many wombs — particularly in times when diseases struck men and women down often in young adulthood.

[...] In times of overpopulation, so-called homosexual and lesbian tendencies come to the surface — but also there is the tendency to express love in other than physical ways, and the emergence of large social issues and challenges into which men and women can throw their energies. [...]

PROBABLE SYSTEMS, MEN, AND GODS

(9:24.) And now we begin the next chapter: “Probable Systems, Men, and Gods.”

[...] There are probable gods as there are probable men; but these probable gods are all a part of what you may call the soul of, or the identity of, All That Is; even as your probable selves are all a portion of your soul or entity.

[...] As long as twenty men insist on fighting a war you will not have peace. [...] Unfortunately, in the condition in which your world finds itself, it is extremely difficult to imagine that all the young men in all of the countries at the same time will refuse to go to war. [...]

[...] (Frank’s men all over.)

[...] Now: Three men in particular who are under you (in the manufacturing plant where Ron holds a supervisor’s position), were part of that original band of men. [...]

[...] (To Ron): In a life in the east before the time of Christ, 1200 B.C., you were a member of a body of men who belonged to an esoteric heritage. [...]

Three men, three we have mentioned in the past. [...]

[...] A lengthy discussion ensued, during which John said that a number of items given by Seth seemed to fit in, stating with the three-men data, the Midwest, etc. [...]

[...] Most of it was precognitive, involving Detroit to some extent and a group of men there; although the data was quite clear to Jane, John could offer little help re interpretation.)

[...] The totem pole, for example, is a remnant from an era where there was much greater communication between man and the animals — when, in fact, men went to the animals to learn, and from them first acquired knowledge of herbs and corrective medicinal behavior.³

[...] The totem poles date back to the time when men and animals understood each other, before that point of departure. [...]

[...] There were, then, smaller and larger species of men,⁴ with varying conscious connections with the rest of nature. [...]

[...] Ruburt sought out men who would not insist upon children. [...]

[...] Ruburt was there working—just as the doctors and insurance men and dentists were. [...]

[...] (Pause.) Dogmatically, arising from the dead alone was clearly not sufficient, for men were to follow where Christ led. [...]

[...] There were many throw-away messiahs (with gentle amusement) — men whose circumstances, characteristics, and abilities were almost (musically) the ones needed — who almost [...]

In those terms, however, again, the gods of Olympus were as real, for all of men’s riches are representations, psychic dramatizations, standing for an inner reality that cannot be literally expressed or described — but can be creatively expressed or represented.

Two men for example, of precisely the same physical age, of precisely the same physical condition, will be in completely different states of mind, of competence, of effectiveness and of strength, as a direct result of their inner beliefs as to their relative freedom within the framework of the physical system in which they exist.

I pick up a strong connection with Dr. Instream and two other men this evening, with whom he has been particularly involved.

[...] One of the men has a daughter who is sickly, ailing at present. [...]

An indication here of the possibility of an automobile accident for one of the men within a six-month period. [...]

[...] Men have committed crimes in misguided searches for an ideal. Great acts of heroism have also resulted, however, and men, it seems, have spent themselves in following an ideal that they hoped to actualize for the rest of mankind. Why does the body not protest if men have nearly starved, or become the scorn of their fellows, or whatever? [...]

[...] Men will die for an ideal. [...]

[...] And across the river at one spot, I saw a large group of men romping or working on the bank — I think they were still incarcerated. [...]

[...] Also, the group of men across the river represented old beliefs of mine that I’d discarded. [...]