“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Man possesses an innate biological knowledge, however, of right and wrong, and to a large extent religions, as they are utilized, distort much of that information. Left alone, men are not murderers, though some may murder. Men always form some kind of group, in which respect is given of one kind or another to their own species, and to nature. Your communication system may, in time, make the distortions of your God concepts much more visible, so that honest men can at least question “How can God say this to the Jews, and that to the Arabs? Is it possible that we have read the message wrong?” All That Is is within each living thing. All That Is is within that which is not, also. Man is not set one against the other. The old distortions involved with the various religions must and will come to light.

Begin, Sadat, and Carter are each “God-fearing” men, sincere believers in their causes. How can “God” be for the Jews and against their enemies, the Arabs, as the Jews suppose, and how can God be for the Arabs and against the Jews, as the Arabs suppose? “Decent” God-fearing men, then, must indeed question how the same God can have such different views, and at least wonder if their own nationalistic histories and prejudices may not have distorted the interpretation of God’s word somewhere along the way.

Men have indeed done more harm in the name of God than they have ever done when pursuing their own greedy or ignorant ways. In the name of God, of course, the artifacts of civilizations have been destroyed, libraries ruined—and when such harm is done, in the name of God, then men are trained to feel no guilt. Indeed, their holy sense of righteousness rises in proportion to the harm they have perpetrated against God’s enemy, no matter who or what this might be.

Fanatics work best in isolation, where their own beliefs are currently and constantly reinforced, and where they are surrounded by sacred yes-men of one kind or another, whatever their designation. Other beliefs are not allowed to intrude, and even those who are firm believers, but not fanatics, naturally prefer the company of their own kind.

[...] In that world men knew that nature was balanced. Both animals and men must die. [...] And when they slayed other animals themselves and ate the heart, for example, it was not only to obtain the animals’ “stout hearts,” or fearlessness; but also the intent was to preserve those characteristics so that through men’s experiences each animal would continue to live to some extent.

They also felt that they were themselves, however; that as humans [they were] the manifestation of the larger expression of nature that was too splendid to be contained alone within nature’s framework, that nature needed them — that is, men — to give it another kind of voice. When men spoke they spoke for themselves; yet because they felt so a part of the natural environment they spoke for nature also, and for all of its creatures.

Regardless of your histories, those early men and women were quite healthy. [...]

Men in those times protected themselves against storms, and yet in the same way they did not begrudge the storm its victims. [...]

[...] There seem to be four men playing chess, symbolically speaking. [...] Three men work together for their own ends.

([John:] “Can you give me more information of these four men?”)

[...] Four men were involved in the promotion of the man to whom you spoke. [...]

There were others who did not want the man promoted, and these men do not want you promoted. [...]

(10:12.) If men were considered equal, however, the ideas of Darwin and Freud came along to alter the meaning of equality, for men were not equal in honor and integrity and creativity—or heroism: —they were equal in dishonor (louder), selfishness, greed, and equally endowed with a killer instinct that now was seen to be a natural characteristic from man’s biological past. [...]

[...] Men in one section of a continent dreamed of animals they had never physically seen, that inhabited other geographical areas. [...]

[...] Men dreamed their own maps in the same fashion, one man dreaming perhaps a certain portion, and several dreamers contributing their versions, drawing in sand in the waking state, or upon cave walls. [...]

[...] There were endlessly complicated, multitudinous religious and cultural justifications for such a situation, so that the entire affair seemed, often, even to the most intelligent of men, self-evident. [...]

Both before and after “the time of Christ,” as historically given, there were men who claimed to be the messiah. [...] Many men tried on the fit. In a manner of speaking, now, it would make little difference which man was finally given the kingly robes—for the greater reality of the dream was so encompassing that it would come to be, whether one or 10 or 20 men’s lives were historically joined together to form the Christ. [...]

[...] Men caught in such an event will question “Why should this happen to me?”

[...] The longevity of those religions and their effects upon those ancient civilizations are certainly not taken by “modern men” as proof that those religions had any basis in fact. [...]

At first, then, men perceived the Gods physically. [...]

Now I have seen, and see, the image of the triangle, and have presumed Philip that you were one of the men involved. These three men however may instead be closely connected with your own prospects, but if so the position of the third man, given up to now as you, is as I have given it; and if he is not you then his position parallels your own strongly.

[...] Daring both in the choice of men, those who will represent the company to the public, and in the choice of men who will develop products, and this is an area with which you should become more familiar, for it is this upon which the company depends.

It is the choosing of the right men not only in the organization as salesmen and in public relations, but also in using judgment and intuition as to those men in another field entirely who will come up with new products, new drug inventions, new ideas, and it is here that the company suffers severely, depending on the tried and true.

[...] I interpret this to mean that two men are involved beside Philip, and that one is more prominent or much stronger than the other. [...]

[...] Men did not begin hunting animals until certain groups of animals needed a way to control their own population. As I have said before, men and animals learned from each other. [...]

Men also domesticated animals almost from the very first, so that men and animals both did each other a service — they worked together. [...]

[...] I mentioned that men and animals must have been cooperating even while still largely in the dream state. [...]

[...] (Pause at 10:11.) There were also men called “Little Popes,” those in training of an ambitious nature, and catered to. [...] These men, incidentally, were no worse, particularly, in their actions than the rest of the populace. [...]

The records would show one reign of one pope; but one, two, or even three different men may have filled the position. [...]

[...] In that life I learned to understand the interplay between men and their ambitions, the gulf that often exists between ideals and practical action.

[...] My flesh felt like dough, the little men were kneading it like dough. [...] The little men were working on my knees when I heard the kids upstairs leave. [...]

[...] Then I saw a lot of little tiny men. [...]

[...] “And now these little men’ve got little things like trowels, and they’re taking scoops of white stuff out of my body and throwing it away. [...]

[...] The little men are up under my arm and it feels like its floating up and out; they’re lifting it up, and using a heat lamp on it under the armpit. [...]

Men sense fear. Men know a bluff. For your individual integrity, you must be willing to jeopardize present financial security; and if you are willing to do this, these men will sense that they cannot sway you, and they will accept your terms in the main.

These men realize too well exactly what your value is, and they, two men in particular, fear you. [...]

The two men of which I spoke are looking for a hole in your armor. [...] If you follow these suggestions, you will be around to take advantage of a definite shakeup, and you are now being watched by men who do not feel yet in a position to speak.

[...] You will get what you want, Philip, only because these men respect you despite differences. [...]

Men and women are born with a desire to push beyond the limits—to, in quotes (amused and loudly): “explore where no man has ever gone before”—a bastard version of the introduction [to a famous television program], I believe. Men and women are born with a sense of drama, a need of excitement. [...]

[...] “In your heart Sayre stands for your childhood,” he said in conclusion, “and to that extent, to you personally, for the childhood of all men. [...]

[...] Men and women are born, however, with curiosity about all sensations, and about all possible life experiences. [...]

[...] In times past in particular, though the custom is not dead, men purged themselves, wore ashes and beat themselves with chains, or went hungry or otherwise deprived themselves. [...]

[...] Even then, of course, there were variances, for many women are larger than small men. But the women could hunt as well as the men. [...]

[...] You have categorized human abilities so that it seems that you are men or women, or women and men primarily, and persons secondarily. [...]

There would have been no question of men performing so-called feminine tasks, or of women performing so-called masculine tasks, for there no leeway for that kind of individual action would have existed.

[...] The family of the caveman was a far more “democratic” group than you suppose — men and women working side by side, children learning to hunt with both parents, women stopping to nurse a child along the way, the species standing apart from others because it was not ritualized in sexual behavior.

2. Early on the morning of June 17, 1972, five men were arrested inside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee, located in the Washington, D.C., apartment-hotel-office complex known as the Watergate. The men were employed by the “plumbers,” a secret group working for the Republican President Richard Nixon’s Committee to Re-Elect the President, and their tasks were to photograph records and to check upon listening devices — “bugs” — that had been planted in the offices during a first illegal entry in May. [...]

MEN, MOLECULES, POWER, AND FREE WILL

[...] She also picked up from him the heading of Chapter 8 for Mass Events: “Men, Molecules, Power, and Free Will.” [...]

[...] Ruburt received it correctly the other (last) evening: “Men, Molecules, Power, and Free Will.”

[...] There were, however, a score of men in the same general area, physically, who responded to the inner psychic climate and felt upon themselves the attraction and responsibility of the religious hero.

(Pause at 9:09.) Some of these men were too tinged, too caught in the torment and fervor of the period to rise sufficiently above it. [...]

These men innately understood their part in this drama, and also their position within All That Is. [...]

[...] He died with a small group of men in a cave that he held as a point of refuge in the middle of a battle, killed by members of another sect. [...]

[...] Men believe that the gods live forever. Men live forever, but having forgotten this, they remember only to endow their gods with this characteristic. Obviously, then, beyond these earthly historic religious dramas, the seemingly recurring tales of gods and men, there are spiritual realities.

[...] Then, say that gods and men create each other, and you come even closer to the truth; but only if you are very careful in your definitions — for how, exactly, do gods and men differ?

(“There were three men whose lives became confused in history and merged, and whose composite history became known as the life of Christ…. [...] The three men were a part of one entity, gaining physical existence in one time. [...]

[...] But it was to be a framework of ideas, not of regulations; of men, not of groups. [...]

(I seemed to briefly hover just above the two men after they had left the spindly ladder of the landing craft, & stepped onto the moon surface. [...]

[...] Also a few feet away—5 or 6—was the ladder the 2 men had used to descend from the module.

To some extent, you are both holding your breath, so to speak, until your working men are gone. [...]

[...] You are both guarded to some extent with the working men about. [...]

[...] Ruburt’s fairly guarded attitude toward the working men to some extent impeded the relaxation necessary, so that the condition overall improved in the schedule I gave, without the ensuing eye improvement I mentioned. [...]

There were animal-men. [...] Some were more like men, some more like animals.

Both the men-animals and the animal-men were born with stronger instincts. [...]

[...] There were men-animals, but they were not your stock. [...]

(Both Jastrow and Hebb are brilliant men, I told Jane as we lay in bed after the session last night, and this brought up once again a basic question I have. Simply put, it concerns the fact that our world society is now run by these brilliant men who think that way. I wondered aloud why other brilliant men weren’t around who questioned people like Hebb and Jastrow, who told them their ideas were severely limited and distorted, who made a case for the kind of thinking Jane and I believed in. [...]

(9:27.) Your evolutionary science, combined with your psychologists, so served to rob men and women of a sense of dignity and meaning that their problems and difficulties were in a way depersonalized. [...]

(Perhaps the most upsetting or enraging part of such behavior is that the best our society can do is to reward men for such actions. [...]

[...] The c-e-l-l-s (spelled) of the young men in question were always in communication, and all of those elements needed to bring about such a reunion took place at that magical level of activity. [...]

[...] Men act, then, in relationship to events that have, historically speaking, not yet occurred — but those events happening, say, in the future, in certain terms cast their shadows back into the present, or illuminate the past according to the events’ characteristics. [...]

[...] Men may react to future events by unconsciously translating them into art, or motion pictures. [...]

(A note: the way things “work” … On Thursday morning—the day after this session was held — Jane and I saw the three young men referred to in the newspaper article on a well-known variety show. [...]