“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

([Joel:] “It was war. It was the instinct to survive. They moved in and everybody could have coexisted together but it just didn’t work that way. We were proud . We lived in a beautiful, but in the sense that this world has plenty, that there was nothing there. We lived and lived successfully. There were hard times. There was summer and there was famine and there were some pretty bad winters, but we were a success. We had been on that land a long time and then you people came in and looked down on us. You thought we were a bunch of savages and you wouldn’t be friends with us or talk to us. You didn’t want to talk to us—we were a bunch of animals yet you lived in hovels made out of dirt. You held yourselves up and thought you were so great and inadvertently or intentionally you began to destroy us at first and then it became more of a pattern because then you sensed that your survival was hinging on it too. Then it became kind of a guerilla warfare on both sides and it accelerated. It wasn’t necessary at all, but I guess we didn’t know that then.”

([Joel:] “I just saw a hatchet kind of a thing with feathers and stuff on it and as the symbol developed it changed into a boomerang with feathers on it.”

([Joel:] “Well, it’s not this one reincarnational period, I’m sure, and today I still think the Indians had and have a better life philosophy, a purer kind of thing.”

([Joel to Bette:] “Do you have any feelings of what you were doing there? Why would you go where you didn’t belong. You knew you didn’t belong there the minute you saw the place.”

[...] I think in that simple drama that went on between Bette and Joel, see, there’s all kinds of answers that we haven’t even begun to reach yet. [...] A fantastic strength and energy in Bette over there, and in Joel. [...]

[...] He wanted to speak for a personality like Joel speaks for a personality, or Jane does, or he wanted to get information in a given particular way. [...]

[...] Joel has seen this as people would shift from his group to my group. [...]

[...] But as far as thinking that I could learn any more by listening to him than I could from coming here, or just listening to myself  because if Joel is capable of doing this, so am I. If he can look in, so can I.”

I am talking first of all of Bette and Joel, then I am speaking of you and Sue and then I am speaking of you and Joel. [...]

(Joel said he had no list of priorities and felt he had told a secret.)

([Joel:] “Answer part I.”)

([Joel:] “My other secrets might hurt someone else.”)

(To Joel.) I want to make a remark to you. [...]

Now I am doing this to help Ruburt all the way down and also to give you some information for that symbol was a good one (to Joel). [...]

([Joel:] “Bette and I have had this thing going tonight that carries back from other weeks about the Indian problem, but there are some powerful things here, and it sure would be nice if you wanted to talk about that a little bit.”)

([Joel:] “Well, we almost did.”)

[...] Joel told Jane of his personality, Bill, beginning to speak through him, directly instead of the automatic writing. [...]

(To Joel.) Now, our friend here has taken his first steps from the diving board and his brave friend here is afraid that he will drown. [...]

([Joel:] “By name, or will this be just a superficial change?”)

([Joel:] “I guess I was looking for a handle, something to see as a personal sign of the change in him.”)

(Joel told of finding a man asleep at his work, explained his feeling and emotions and could he change them?)

([Joel:] “You don’t just automatically think good things about this fellow and then repress the negative thoughts and never even become aware that I felt...”)

([Joel:] “In the beginning, with the first example, before we filled and compounded the frustration, the charges, would you have recommended an action like saying, ‘come on, this is wrong and I have probably done this sort of thing myself, but this is wrong and it really bugs me and that we got to get up and get to work here, be honest with him at that level. [...]

([Joel:] “It seems to me there are two people we want to avoid making a brunt of the anger, he and myself. [...]

([Joel:] “Since Peter came home from visiting his grandfather, he has been stuttering. [...]

([Joel:] “Nothing apparent. [...]

([Joel:] “This life?”)

([Joel:] “What can we do to handle it now?”)

Now we have here, for all of your benefit, some examples, both here (Davey) and here (Mary Ellen) and here (Joel) of one particular phenomena. [...]

Now Ruburt did not know what he was going to speak about this evening and half of his talk in class is automatic, as you know, but it was no coincidence that he became involved in his talk of power and energy for you had a deep distrust of your own energy to sway people as a salesman (to Davey) as you had a distrust of your ability to sway people as a minister (to Joel) and as you also have the same feeling (to Davey), for what happens is this. [...]

[...] This is what you think when you put out this fine energy to sell a product (to Davey) and this is what you think (to Joel). [...]

(To Joel.) And you have been a poor, ignorant, stupid ignoramus that now you are trying to reach. [...]

[...] Theodore M. told of his experiences in the Great Hall and Joel related his experiences with his personality, Bill. [...]

Now, I cannot sing along with Mitch, but I do have something to say to this one (Sue) and that one (Joel) and, to some extent, to all of you and it is this. [...]

(To Joel) The word “unfold,” that you spoke earlier, is far nearer to any understanding of the truth. [...]

([Joel:] “Didn’t you say earlier, referring to the woman who was born in a minority race, that her challenges had been set up by a previous personality in our terms?”)

(To Joel.) For all those who have in their deepest, most sacred thoughts imagined that to be quiet was good and to be dignified was pious, then such a performance as mine should certainly make them think. [...]

(To Joel) Now, I want our friend over here, our spontaneous friend, to grapple with the ideas of the soul and reincarnational probable selves. [...]

([Joel:] “You knew I had been working on that, didn’t you?”)

([Joel:] “I love it when you say, what blessings I have to give, I give you. [...]

([Joel Hess:]“Where do the demons come in?”)

([Joel:] “We are continuing to make them now and in the future as well?”)

([Joel:] “As this evolution of the church continues and progresses before the timetable established at 2000 and disintegrates as we know it now, will this be a voluntary disintegration or will it be imposed politically?”)

([Joel:] “Joyfully?”)

And each of you—  you (Joel) and you (Alison) and you (Florence) for I do discriminate, and Ruburt are so jealously concerned for these intellects, so jealous of the intellectual power that they would kill some poor little innocent flower just to see what made the thing grow. [...]

([Joel:] “The potential may be there but I don’t want to ever see it happen.”)

(To Joel) I know you did not mean it, the way that I seemed to take it, but it was too good to miss. [...]

([Joel:] “Yes, because I was thinking of an event rather than words, but you picked up on the words rather than the event.”)

(To Joel) I have a few remarks for you and it is this. [...]

([Joel:] “I just wondered if the first signs of this was after Bill began speaking. [...]

([Joel:] “Why does she tend to disavow so much of my work?”)

([Joel:] “Sometimes I think I would renegotiate the contract.”)

(To Joel.) And you do not allow yourself to remember that the Lady of Florence was a very strong taskmaster followed by you in China in a Ching dynasty. [...]

([Joel:] “I guess in the beginning Jane and Rob were a little ambivalent as to whether they wanted to go and check the Frank Withers thing, and we have not made any attempt to check the stuff that Bill gave the first time—That I, in the ‘40s and having been a lawyer and went to Northwestern law school, practiced law in the Loop, that kind of thing. [...]

([Joel:] “Yes, I just wondered if you had any additional information perhaps that we might want to look into as we proceeded. [...]

Our friend, Joel, reacts to our Lady of Florence, therefore, as she appears to him now in this place and in this time, and yet he also reacts as a person that he was, in your terms, and our Lady of Florence reacts as a person she was, in your terms. [...]

[...] You especially over there (Sue) and you (Maria) and you (Joel), and you all know to what I am referring. [...]

([Joel:] “Was I right then about the aura changing because of the intensity of Jane’s own mental focus?”)

[...] This also has to do with other feelings on your parts here (Sue) and here (Maria), to some extent over there (Joel). [...]

([Joel:] “Who were you pointing to when you said that somebody over here had something else to work out. [...]

([Joel:] “You said ‘we want you’ to be aware etc. [...]

([Joel:] “After we think about it awhile?”)

(Joel and Wally gave their interpretations of what Seth had said.)

[...] Also because I have said what I wanted to say, and I hope you heard our friends’ interpretation for it was a good one (Joel) and this was a good one also (Wally). [...]

I want you to understand the nature of your inner self or, for your friend over here (to Joel Hess) the nature of your soul, for it is a focal point of reality from which other realities spring and not imprisoned in tiny boxes of days or weeks or months, or even of centuries. [...]

And if there is any redemption, my good, holy friend, (to Joel) it takes place in each moment of time now in each day, not back so many centuries ago. [...]

([Joel:] “Might this be compared to the rotating light in a lighthouse?”)

([Joel:] “Would a noninterval be a positive interval to another aspect of our existence?”)

(To Joel.) You know I am going to say this to our friend of the idiot flowers over there. [...]

([Joel:] “I was thinking about this acceleration. [...]

[...] Alison and Joel work them out. [...]

([Joel:] “You said that contracts could be renegotiated.”)

([Joel:] “Centuries are a long time.”)

(To Joel. [...]

(To Joel) And as for our friend over here, trust yourself, and when I say your self, I mean the entire self. [...]

Now I bid you all a fond good evening and, again, for our friend over here (Joel), those blessings that I have I give you, and those I do not have you must get for yourselves. [...]