“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(This afternoon while doing Yoga exercises Jane gave herself suggestions to the effect that she would do better in the envelope test tonight, than she had done last session. As will be seen, she did do much better.

[...] First of all, may I congratulate you for doing something that you do not realize you have done. [...] Do you have any idea of what I am speaking?

Now you can do, that is any individual can do, and does, the same with the physical body. [...]

[...] And when you can do this under that stress, you see that you can also do it in other situations. [...]

(Another question I’d meant to ask but forgot to list, had to do with our failure to do certain things, regardless of how often Seth mentioned them: viz.—using the hot towels, trying for the library, etc. [...]

[...] More than that, however, your question of course reflects your cultural beliefs and assumptions, and so you do not realize that in some ways such conscious knowledge of the body’s workings might limit rather than expand concepts and experience of the body and the self.

[...] I confess that I do not quite know how to explain what I mean. [...]

[...] You can deal as effectively with the body by regarding it in entirely different terms than you do.

[...] (Pause.) From my viewpoint (pause) I do not perceive your physical universe then as you do. I do perceive your psychic values and emotional intensities, and realize that you perceive but very small segments of these. [...]

[...] Ruburt is doing well however with this development. Do you have any questions for me? I do not mind answering them.

I am not telling you that individuality does not exist, that it is an illusion, and that therefore I do not perceive it. I am telling you that you do not perceive your own individuality as a whole identity.

[...] Although you do not find me as warmly personal as the Seth with whom (staring directly at me) you have been acquainted, I am a personality. [...]

[...] Your ideas expand constantly, but your ideas have nothing to do with space, and the manner in which the universe constantly expands has nothing to do with your idea of space. True space, fifth dimensional space, has abilities of expansion that do not need space, not in your terms.

[...] I do not know if it was merely a dream or not at this point. [...] I simply do not know if that particular limb will fall within a specific time. [...]

[...] In other words this expansion has nothing to do with your (underline) idea of space. [...] It has nothing to do with space or time in the manner in which you are accustomed to think of them. [...]

[...] Imagine in other words consciousness, growth, reality and expansion, having nothing to do with expansion of space in your terms, but an almost complete freedom of psychological realities, and you will come at least within the realm of understanding what I mean by an expanding universe that has nothing to do with the expanding universe of which your scientists speak.

Ten pages is too much to do in one session with the pendulum. Look at your questions as if you were asking them of a person, so that in one session do not act as if an answer given before has not been given. Do you follow me?

[...] The doing is important. When he considers work as paramount, however, or thinks in terms of “the work of my life,” that emphasis inclines (with amusement) him to think primarily of results rather than of doing. [...]

[...] (Long pause.) If on page 2, say, the pendulum says that it feels the symptoms are no longer necessary, then in following questions for that day take that answer as given, and do not ask questions that would undermine the given answer, as if you do not trust it. [...]

[...] You do not have to try and make poetry practical.

[...] You cannot encourage him, saying “I know you can do it, honey, don’t worry about it, you’ll do better next time,” when you are quite firmly convinced of the opposite.

Ruburt’s body can perform far better, and is in the process of so doing. You would each do it a great service if you would simply leave it alone, stop negative projections upon it, if you cannot manage to send it positive help through being willing to change your beliefs about it.

[...] If you want to sit back and say “My worry prevents me from enjoyment, creativity and fulfillment,” then do so. It would be better if you said that entire sentence and then put it in the past, and added, “I shall no longer do so.” [...]

Some of this has to do with the fact that both of you think in terms of absolutes, but often in different ways. [...]

[...] Do not identify with what you think of as past failures. The point of power is in the present, and when you believe changes can occur, they do indeed happen.

[...] To some extent the same attitude applies to whatever you do physically, for you compare it to what you think you should be doing that is perhaps more vigorous. [...]

[...] Once again, I wondered what we’d been doing while all that time passed.)

[...] You do not compare the present situation with a past one in a detrimental manner. [...]

We do not have too many comments but one I am bound to make. [...] There is an interpretation to the meaning of the fall, in Biblical terms, and on another occasion I will tell you what it is but do not expect the philosophy that tells you automatically that by becoming human you have degraded yourselves. [...]

[...] Now, do not forget that through the centuries, and through time, information had to be given according to the background of the time, and oftentimes questions had to be answered in the terms in which they were asked and the questions themselves that were asked were often loaded. The questions themselves, and forgive me, my dear Lady of Florence, the questions themselves could not be answered within a semblance of truth because the questions were basically meaningless in the real fabric of reality so this has much to do with the distortions also that have come down through the ages, both in the Bible and many other writings. [...]

And you are doing very well indeed. [...]

([Arnold:] “But we do advance don’t we?”)

[...] Again, the neurological structure has much to do with this. You are so used to handling certain kinds of concepts, and interpreting them in thus-and-thus a fashion, that the pathways for more complicated data simply do not as yet exist in physical terms.

[...] (Pause.) In regard to another question, having to do with the frameworks left behind. Do you recall?

[...] It is a big universe, and we do not travel in the same circles. [...] Since he seems to keep you in mind sufficiently enough to give the messages, you can presume that he will continue to do so; and when he clearly communicates with me, then I will question him in that regard.

I do not know now to what the following refers exactly: a connection with Miss L. Were you in a class together? [...]

[...] You do not understand your mixtures of order and spontaneity, formality and informality. You do not want to move into an overly friendly neighborhood. Others do. [...]

[...] You both do need privacy for your work and because of your natures, but if you try to find a home with no dogs or children within miles, then in another way you are doing what Sam Levine is trying to do, only in your own way. [...]

[...] It does mean that you settle for a reasonable amount of privacy, but that you do not carry the idea to extremes. If the sound of children’s voices, or dogs, even in the distance, annoys you, then you are doing a Dr. Levine in your own ways.

[...] As given however it still possesses qualities that do go in with your natures. [...] Ruburt hates to give it up for that reason, but to a lesser degree so do you.

(9:01.) However, animals do reason. They do not reason in the same areas that you do (intently). In those areas in which they do reason, they understand cause and effect quite well. [...]

[...] You do not need a human intellect to be aware of your own consciousness. Animals, it is true, do not reflect upon the nature of their own identities as man does (pause), but this is because that nature is intuitively comprehended. [...]

(Pause.) With Ruburt: The new orientation is bringing results, and the results do appear effortlessly.² The affair with Mitzi (one of our cats) did involve action at other levels — a magical orientation. Ruburt is doing well. [...]

[...] When I set out to do the job that afternoon, Jane suggested using catnip on the towel. [...] Jane was doing the dishes. [...]

(10:40.) You are doing fairly well, but you can do better by far.

[...] You do not think of any paintings that you did not succeed at. [...] You have not believed you could do that.

[...] This has to do with a brief conversation the two of you held recently. [...]

[...] The feelings of relaxation and mobility can frighten him—though they do so far less than previously, and less often. [...]

I could go on for quite a while, mentioning things that you could do. [...] You have available, through your television set I believe, data having to do with outside temperature, wind velocity and so forth. [...]

[...] I do not believe that it is possible for you to carry your dream experiments far enough to discover certain other factors that do exist between various layers of the subconscious, and falling temperature rates in the physical organism. [...]

[...] You may of course do as you like. [...]

[...] He shall weigh in, as fighters do, though this is indeed a different kind of arena.

[...] This is not clear, we will see what we can do, and if we do not get it clearly we shall at a later time. [...]

[...] At no time do you want your abilities to work full blast without control... [...] You do not want to drive your car at 90 mph without brakes, for example ...

Do not concentrate on symptoms, but on feelings of health... Do not get caught up in sympathy... [...]

Now, in your dreams you have made certain contacts that you do not recall ... [...]

[...] He became angry, and still is, when you show normal criticism of Prentice and their dealings with our books, or his, because he feels that you do not really understand how difficult it is to market creative work, and since you do not sell your paintings you should not criticize his admittedly worrisome efforts. The fact that some of your criticisms are justified makes him worry the more, that he is not doing as good a job as he should.

There was some resentment against you, for he could not accept what he considered as a sacrifice on your part in jobs throughout your life, and yet he was angry because you would not do, he thought, what he had done—try to do your creative best, and then force the marketplace to take it. [...]

[...] I do not want to duplicate material given. [...]

He took these for himself, and also in his own way for you, feeling that when he began to “make it” you would also be freer to do your thing.

[...] The contact is also with your other reincarnated selves that you do not presently recall. (Smiling:) I see a larger portion of your identity than you do.

(Pause at 10:31.) Ruburt may be invited to go somewhere or do something, on a Wednesday shortly, and I suggest that he not do so. [...]

[...] You do not have to contact it nor its other spirals, in that you already belong to it.

Now I am speaking simply, for I am speaking of a circle as you understand it in three-dimensional terms, but there are more depths and dimensions to a circle than you can imagine when you picture, say, a globe; and so of course in this analogy identity has other dimensions that do not appear.

[...] Indeed when I speak of the future I do see possibilities, and speak in terms of trends of activities that may change. This is why, often, our specific dates do not materialize as given, or why events foreseen do not occur as given. [...]

[...] We may indeed end up with another session before Monday, but if so we shall see to it that you do not write up all our notes. I do my best in my own way to look out for all of you, and yet I am also limited as to my actions within your system. [...] I cannot spell all things out, and I would not do so if I could.

I do indeed find the conversation very interesting. [...] We will leave the matter there, with one addition: I do not approve personally. [...]

[...] My words were a warning, and I do not warn without reason, and I do not cry wolf.

[...] “I tried to do a little bit of that bicycle thing when I was in hydro this morning,” Jane said. “I could feel it work, but I couldn’t do much because you’ve got to keep yourself balanced on that litter.... [...]

[...] I rubbed her neck in that certain spot and her head began to flop back and forth as it has been doing. [...]

[...] I hadn’t seen her do this for years. [...]

[...] “What am I doing, Bob? [...]

(In answering my question, Jane said she knows what motions she’s making, but often pays no attention—which is good, since it means she’s letting the body do its thing in its own way. With a small inspiration, I told her that in the light of the session today she should do the same thing as far as her understanding of the roles of the conscious and unconscious minds goes. [...]

[...] She was to do the exercises without wondering which ones to do, etc., just as she was to accept the body’s own order in the unconscious healing process.

The fears arise when he concentrates upon impediments, wondering how he will do this or that. [...]

[...] “I don’t do it too often,” she said.

3. A. Why do we attract the kind of visitors we do, in person?

[...] Do painting. [...]

2. Did I go overboard on “Unknown” Reality? Why did I choose to do notes for it —let alone publish it in 2 volumes? [...]