“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

Now I ask you—how far do you think a flower would get if, in the morning, it turned its face toward the sky and said, “I demand the sun?” “And now I need rain. [...] And I demand that, furthermore, that discipline operate and that the soil shall follow my command, but I do not allow the soil any spontaneity of its own—and I do not allow the sun any spontaneity of its own—and I do not agree that the sun knows what it is doing. [...]

[...] And there was a tremendous effort involved individually to get spring going—to get the buds out...that the good things that we do that we don’t realize...you know we think of war—and we see all the evil we do; and that the good things we do, we often don’t realize—and that we actually form the seasons—the spring, the other seasons; and that the earth itself, the physical earth, is like the Garden of Eden in our subconscious. That is, it’s a result of the good things that we do that we maintain—that we create and maintain this fantastic planet that we get our sustenance and food from—and everything else. [...]

[...] For I must tell you again, and I cannot tell you too often, that the inner self, acting spontaneously, automatically shows the discipline that you do not as yet understand. [...] Surely all of you consider yourselves somewhat superior to a piece of bacon, and you do not identify with it. Then, do not identify with your emotions or your thoughts. [...]

[...] I can see, however, that my hardheaded lecture did some good as it was intended to do particularly in one area to my right (Florence). To my left (Brad)—we still have some work to do—and I will see to it that my friend Ruburt helps us in this matter. [...]

[...] They will not seem to show your kind of work, but this is precisely why they will want to do so. They do not have anyone in their stable who can do good work with figures, or of an objective nature.

[...] You had better include N A N. (Pause.) Now I do not know if this is Nan Carter, but I do know the two are connected. [...]

Now listen: do not take it for granted that those who do not show your type of art are against it, or will not want it. [...]

I do not mean that you will have this in mind particularly, but that you will be looking at fruit in a new way, and from different viewpoints. When you do this, this gallery will be interested.

[...] Do not take it for granted. Do not take anything for granted this week, either that objects are stationery or that time goes from one moment to the next. [...] Your thoughts, all of your thoughts at this moment, to you seem to come and go without a trace and yet they leave traces that you do not see, nor perceive, nor even sense, and yet if you quietly examine your experience, if you listen to the universe, you can begin to perceive some of these realities and that is what I want you to do. [...]

[...] It is like using your physical muscles, but beyond the playing that you are doing there are also more important issues, and you should learn of them. [...] How do I relate to others? How am I doing? [...]

(To Gert.) Now, first of all, over here to our profiled friend you are already the self that you want to be so do not let it bother you so. Relax more with what you are doing and let the perceptions from the whole self become your own. [...] The compassion itself is already there so you do not have to work so hard to be compassionate. [...]

[...] There are many more experiments that you can do, and I hope that you will, with the nature of plant activity and consciousness. It will help you all to get out of yourselves to some extent and for the following week for regular students there is something that I want you to do, and it is this. [...]

(Jane is still faithfully doing her exercises twice a day, and walking more than ever; I am starting a chart. She is making her own list of things to do for 1979, including the point of power. I am still concerned deeply about her condition, and for the most part we seem to move along from day to do as we always do. [...] I’m afraid that Seth has spent years encouraging us to do things that for whatever reasons we either don’t do or can’t do, simple as they appear to be.)

[...] Therefore I will plant accomplishments and successes, and I will do this by remembering that nothing can exist in the future that I do not want to be there.

[...] The list I just gave you is important because if you do not value your abilities or approve of yourself, then you cut yourself off from using your own abilities. You deny yourself their help and aid because you do not recognize your own abilities as such in the true sense of the word.

[...] I do not want to be severe, and yet you do indeed show ingratitude when you “wish you were like other people.” [...]

[...] When you do so your accomplishments seem to vanish, and you cannot take comfort from them. It seems that the ideas do not work only when you do not use them. [...] Your strengths reinforce each other, but so do your misunderstandings.

[...] You do not seem to have time in a day to do what you want. [...] “I am free to do my painting.” [...]

[...] Again, you recognize them, but you do not try to rise above them emotionally. The painting does not bring in money, so to punish yourself you do not enjoy it sufficiently—but concentrate upon the distractions instead. You do your financial part with the books, but you still tie in your social identity with your painting, and to some extent you still feel that that social identity is dependent upon the money your “art” should produce, so you punish yourself by not enjoying your painting time. [...]

[...] When I say to Ruburt “Do not concentrate upon the symptoms because you reinforce them,” then you agree, Joseph, and it makes perfect sense. [...] You wonder what is wrong with him, that he cannot understand what he is doing.

[...] And wherefore does it come, and how, indeed, do these elements reach into my beings and down into my roots? [...] I do not understand, and since I do not understand, therefore, I will not accept the sun and I shall stand here and deny that it exists for how do I know that I exist, much less the sun does. [...]

[...] If you do not trust what Ruburt would call the establishment, then trust the inner voice that is yourself and follow it. You do not need trust me, but you must, indeed, trust yourself. I have always trusted myself so I do not see why you would not trust me. [...]

You do, indeed. Since I have told you this often, I do not understand how you are giving it to me in the nature of a revelation. You do not remember the short trips, either. [...]

[...] They are being nurtured, but do they in this darkness, therefore, look about them and say, “This is a time of death? [...] What has happened to the summertime, and will it never come again for me?” That is what you are doing now. [...]

[...] So that in any psychic development or work that you do, you do not only have your own emotional strength or current, but another with you. [...] Also, as a result anything that one of you do will have an effect on the other, and you will notice this in psychic work. [...] Do you follow me? [...]

[...] (To Eve.) You would do very well—I can see now, however, that this will not appeal to you and it is to some degree an unusual knack—but you would do very well in finding lost animals. [...] You would do very well also in dealing with animals where you cared for them and picked homes for them. [...] On another level, however, you would do very well. [...]

[...] Now when you form it you do so with the inner realization that it reaches from you outward and you expect something to be on the other side, or the bridge would be useless. Do not, however, identify the bridge with what waits on the other side. [...] Now you are beginning at your end and in doing so you form the initial version of your Adam. [...]

[...] If you want to see the colors of a flower, or my dear friends, of an apple, you must get out of your body to do so. Now you do not need to feel that his psychic abilities close you out, or that you do not have your own: or that his abilities will draw him away from you, for they would only bring him closer. [...]

[...] But you do not perceive it. [...] The vastness that you do not perceive does not bother you at all and you do not ask questions about it because it does not concern you. [...]

[...] Now as you know, you do not perceive the atoms and molecules that swim about the room nor the atoms and molecules that fill this space between our friends, nor the forces—the field forces—that exist. [...] And what do they sit upon? Do you all know—emptiness that you perceive as solidity. [...]

[...] I do not mean my method of meditation alone. I do mean subjective activity on your part and exploration. Do you follow me? [...]

[...] If you were able to focus your attention upon the dissimilarities, merely those that you can perceive but do not, then you would be amazed that mankind could form any idea of an organized reality. [...] You merely perceive it as vacant because you do not perceive what is there. [...]

[...] You do not like to take orders—you do not like barriers—you do not like enforcements. You are the kind of person that likes to do things for other people, but not if someone demands that you do.

[...] You do not want to give upon demand—after your marriage you felt as if this was the case. [...] You do not want to give when you feel you must give. You do not want to give on demand. [...]

[...] You have a gift for bringing out the spontaneity from others, for calling from them qualities of giving and letting go, and in so doing you ride the spontaneity of others also—you can go along with it. [...] The fear under those circumstances of letting go, and yet the fear has to do with the deeper fear involving the nature of your own inner faith—thoughts, of course, of being annihilated, not however by the emotions of another, but by your own.

[...] The overconcentration prevents you from doing what you say and feel you want to do.

[...] Beginning, in Ruburt’s terms, therefore, do not get uptight about using them. When you are learning to walk or swim you do not stop to think, “How am I doing this, will I meet a mean old fish or not, will I pull?” and you do not imagine the dire consequences that may, therefore, attend you and do not do so now. You have a level head, and so do you, use it. [...]

[...] Do you follow me? [...] Do you follow me? [...] A session or so is all right but I do not want you placing yourself in a position where you are trying to prove the legitimate nature of such communication to others. [...] Do not force yourself to a point of strain. Do you follow me? [...]

[...] Later you can wipe them off, but do not discard the entire experience because you fear these specks of dust. [...] You will not lose him in a nether land or some forsaken place where you cannot reach him, so do not fear that. [...] Therefore, the doubts that you voice are also his own unvoiced ones so do not be ashamed of them. Do you follow me? [...]

[...] Do not buck it so. You can enrich it and do not be frightened of it. [...]

(Seth II:)(Words lost)...observed then realize that we are highly interested in such experiments as Seth is conducting, and that as we observe you, so do you, though unconsciously, observe other realities in your sleep state. [...] And so do we observe and does yourself serve as a translator in our behalf. Unfortunately, we do not communicate easily with the portion of you that can understand. You are not in communication with that portion of yourselves that is not physical, that was never physical and that will not know physical existence at all, and since you identify with the physical self then, indeed, we come to you in the guise of ghosts that you do not understand our forms that you cannot see. And yet, since we seeded the universe in which you have your present existence then do we observe, and do we watch, and do we have concern. [...]

Now my relationship with you, brought up quite cleverly by our friend over here, is indeed a strange one since you do not relate to me as you do to each other. But you may tell our friend over here the effort I make precisely so that you do not set me up as a demigod and that you use your own abilities. [...]

[...] You need the framework, but you do not need too tight a framework and you do not want, now. And do not project your conscience outward upon others and then react to them as authority figures. [...]

[...] There are, and I do not want to shock you, individuals who quite humbly and sincerely, do the best that they can. [...]

[...] I do not mean my method of meditation alone. I do mean subjective activity on your part, and exploration. Do you follow me? [...]

[...] The vastness that you do not perceive does not bother you at all, and you do not ask questions about it. [...]

Now: As you know, you do not perceive the atoms and molecules that swim about the room, nor those that fill the space between our two friends, nor the forces — the field forces — that exist. [...] And what do they sit upon? [...]

[...] Our note takers are doing very well, considering that the paper is not solid and neither are their pens. It is amazing what you can do with nothing!

What you do in Alpha I, in healing, is already what you do unconsciously without realizing that you do so. [...] Your thoughts form their reality, cause their illness or their health, and in Alpha I you do this at a level of awareness that you can recognize. [...]

Now it may seem quite strange to our Lady of Florence to find herself within her body and working at such intimate terms with the physical matter of which she is composed, and yet you do this constantly. You are only now becoming aware of what you do at an unconscious level. [...] You can see what you are doing. You are manipulating in physical terms, but it should occur to you that you do not need the physical images. [...]

[...] And do it joyfully. You do not need necessarily to set up projects, give yourself some freedom with the state. You may be amazed at what you learn when you do not program yourself. [...]

I bid you a fond good evening and, again, those blessings that I have to give, I give to you, and those that I do not have you will have to get for yourselves. [...] You all have reservoirs of energy that you do not use, sources of strength that you do not admit, so use them. [...]

[...] Let yourself go and do not be afraid of your feelings. Do not try to make a rock. Do not try to make yourself into a cold star from which you can observe the rest of humanity and be safe from it. [...] Do not believe it, feel it. [...] Do not try too hard. [...] For you do, and it will find you. [...]

[...] Existence as you know it is vulnerable, but if you are vulnerable to sorrow and doubt you are also vulnerable to exaltation and joy, so do not attempt to close off from your feelings or be ashamed of them or deny them. [...] They give and do not attempt to stand rigidly against their nature. [...]

Now you all want to do fine and mighty spiritual things and many of you, as much as possible, want to do these things without facing the self that you know. [...]

[...] With Bill, through automatic writing or alone, and then do what you want with (words lost). [...] Because you have abilities, I want you to do this. [...]

(To Bette.) So do not turn aside from that endeavor, and again do not judge the information that you get in the terms in which you are used to judging it. [...] Do not insist it must necessarily mean that this is completely your imagination, or hogwash, or that it is the God’s truth on the other hand, and that there is nothing but an abyss between. [...] So do not thrust it aside and do not blame your Jason or yourself, but be thankful for what you have, which is valid information. [...] So do not throw out the baby with the wash water. [...]

Now, you have all been changing your relationships, not only because of what has gone on in class physically, but because of what you have been doing in the dream states. [...] I ask you to do things  (to Gert) in a minute I will be with you—all of you, and some of you do these things and some do not. [...]

(To Mary Ellen) And in the same way over here, do not be so impatient. [...] Be content with that and do not put so many questions to the voice of the universe when it speaks, and you will get a clearer message. And do not ask for so many specifications. [...]

[...] Now, in other realities and in the Alpha state, there are certain root assumptions like your objects, but you will perceive these again in your own individual manner, and you must learn to differentiate there as you do here. And some of you do not always learn how to differentiate. This is to you (Sue) in one specific instance, for there is one area in which you do not realize you are projecting. [...]

(Amused:) I do not want to alarm you. [...] Do not be blind to the good intents of your fellows. [...] Do not make the mistake of becoming self-righteous.

(2. From a discussion Jane and I had the other day: Why do Seth’s books sell so much better than her own? [...] This situation also makes me think that if I wrote Through My Eyes, people wouldn’t pay much attention to that either, on a large-enough scale to make it worth doing. [...]

(10:15.) They do not trust themselves. They do not have the stamina, or the resoluteness, however, yet, to face a reality in which they are the creators of their circumstances. [...]

[...] This is nothing against Ruburt’s books, for they are excellent—but people become frightened sometimes because they do not want to compare themselves to Ruburt. [...] They do not want Ruburt’s inquiring mind to intrude.

Now some of this has to do with some information given to you by Joseph last evening—Joseph is your friend Robert—having to do with your ideas of health and illness. [...] The fear of reincarnation is again a shield for another fear that you have not faced that has nothing to do with reincarnation but has charged the word reincarnation to you. [...]

There is something that you can do. There is something that all of you can do, and I have told the class this many times, but you tend to forget it. [...] As a rule you do not admit this knowledge. [...]

[...] Often you do not approve of them, or they frighten you, and you shove them down into the other portions of your mind. There they can indeed do damage. [...] You will not only shove down ideas that seem negative, however, you will also shove down feelings of generosity, particularly toward people that you do not like, feelings of joy because you feel too guilty to think you should feel joy. [...]

[...] That is an important part of the class framework, and if you are ready to work it out for yourselves you do so. [...] This also has to do with other feelings on your parts here (Sue) and here (Maria), to some extent over there (Joel). And as you all know in this room when you feel ready to accept new experience and work it through, you will do so. [...]

Do not insist upon any set of beliefs. [...] Do not force inner responses. [...]

Do not accept class as a dogma. Do you understand? [...]

Now, you do not give up your beliefs. [...]

[...] Do not be afraid or pity him. [...]

(“Do you have a message for us?”)

(“Do you have a message for us?”)

(“Frank Watts, do you watch over Sam Towson now?”)

(“Frank Watts, do you have any children living in Elmira now?”)

But when you are born again into a tiny and helpless organism and when your intellect may still be operating strongly, then there is a shock, for you cannot do what you want to do. [...] It is easier, you see, if you do not remember. [...]

For how do I know as I sit here that you are not the products of my imagination? [...] And how do I know that I do not simply want to teach and so imagine a roomful of pupils? [...]

[...] Though to do so I must follow you in your pursuits through the days. For how do I know that you exist if I do not see you? [...]

In my own book, for an intellectual exercise—and simply for that, since I do believe that all of you do exist—I am going to deal in one chapter with the difficulties of proving—from my vantage point—that three-dimensional reality does exist and is inhabited by creatures—thinking creatures. [...]