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Denmark.

Denmark.

(“Did Jane and I know each other three centuries ago in Denmark?”)

(My name in Denmark, in the 1600’s, was Larns Devonsdorf. [...] Seth has dealt with our Denmark lives in a few early sessions without going into much detail, and has occasionally referred to them in later sessions. In the second session, while still speaking to us through the personality of Frank Watts, Seth told us he had been a merchant who dealt in spices. [...]

(Somehow the conversation turned to the lives Jane and I had led in Denmark. [...]

(Brotzanin II had been one of the ships with which Seth had been connected in his Denmark life. [...]

[...] According to Seth I lived in Denmark in the 1600’s. I was a painter as a younger man, then gave it up for the more respectable role of a farmer, at which I was quite successful. [...] I believe I farmed in Denmark, but there is much here that we don’t know. Denmark and Holland of course are close geographically.

(Perhaps I carried out some of my experiments with painting the outdoor sculpture in Denmark, where winter weather must be considered, after visiting Italy. While I discussed the Florence, Italy, data with Jane after the session, Seth returned very briefly re Rembrandt:That is why he went to Florence—to see the sculpture there. Perhaps after my return to Denmark from Italy I did some experimenting re painting sculptures, and then passed this information on to Rembrandt?

(I didn’t add that I was well aware of the time sequence here—that according to Seth I had a rather long life in Denmark in the 1600 ‘s —and that Rembrandt lived in Holland from 1606 to 1669.)

[...] The first question: According to Seth, he, Jane and I lived in Denmark in the 1600’s. I simply wanted clarification of the data on my lifespan, as given in the notes at the end of the 541st session, in Chapter Eleven.

The information on the Denmark life in Chapter Eleven is correct, except for a misinterpretation. [...]

(In the 223rd session for January 16, 1966, Seth said that my name in the Denmark life was Larns Devonsdorf. [...]

(Not long after these sessions began, several years ago, Seth told Jane and me that the three of us had experienced lives in Denmark in the 1600’s. Ever since then I’ve thought my interest in the art of Western Europe for that same period, embracing the work of Rembrandt and Vermeer, Van Dyke, and Rubens, et al., more than coincidental. I mentioned to Jane now my curiosity as to whether my artistic career had any connection with my Denmark life. [...]

[...] This is Denmark. [...]

[...] We found the data concerning Denmark intriguing. [...]

[...] This was in Denmark, and your father was a baker. [...]

[...] Many times before Seth has told us he lived a life in Denmark in the sixteenth century.)

[...] Your interest in painting and your abilities do not only spring from the Denmark life, for example, but also arose out of your quite legitimate life as Nebene, when you were focused upon the visual symbols and their correct inscription. [...]

[...] In the Denmark life the love of the visual was still with you, but you were trying to allow yourself greater freedom with it, to feel the freedom of adding to what you saw, but you felt a great reluctance to do so. [...]

[...] This was in Denmark, and your father was a baker. [...]

[...] Many times before Seth has told us he lived a life in Denmark in the sixteenth century.)

[...] It was indeed in my Denmark existence, he said, “the life of which you are now so ashamed.” [...] This reminded me that Seth had given similar data for our friend Bill Macdonnel; he too had been a sailor in a Denmark contemporary existence, but as I recall I did not ask Seth whether Judy and Bill had known each other in that life. [...]

[...] If you’re good, you two, and if you will either borrow a recorder or dispense with notes or some such, we will have a good old informal time of it, though not of course like Denmark. And I’ll get down to brass tacks on Denmark one of these days, you old son of a gun, Joseph.

In these terms, and giving the simplest explanation since your friend is not well acquainted with our previous discussions, my last growing-up period occurred in Denmark, in the same approximate period as the one given previously for a previous life of your own, Joseph, and of Ruburt’s.

(In the 4th session, December 8,1963, Seth stated he lived in Denmark three centuries ago, and that Jane and I did also. [...]

(The closest I came to getting any kind of personal information were a few remarks about our Denmark existence, three centuries ago. [...]

[...] Reinforcing this unfortunate circumstance, we have the carry-over distrust of impulse from the Denmark existence. Ordinarily the last life before this would have adequately compensated for the Denmark experience, but the mother situation in this life reawakened the fear of giving in to impulse, and tended to overstrengthen the desire for discipline, which was based on fear.

[...] Because you were such a fleshpot particularly in one of your lives, shall I call it the Denmark incident, at times you overcompensate. [...]

[...] We brought spices up to Denmark, and we had delightful trips, indeed. We also explored and we went down as far as Africa, and then we came back to the fine provincial people in Denmark and sold them the spices that we had left. [...]

I suggest that you take your break; and again, by all means, let me complicate matters further by commenting on the fact that Mark himself knew you, Joseph, twice before, and perhaps you will recall my comments upon your relationship with your son’s mistresses in Denmark.

(While Jane was delivering the material on Denmark and Triev, Bill said that he recalled quite vividly his experience with his “lost town” episode. [...]

The family had been living in Denmark for two generations. [...]

[...] This was in Denmark. [...]

(According to Seth, the three of us were involved in Denmark in the 1600’s. I was a landowner, Jane was my son, and Seth was a spice merchant. [...]

[...] (Long pause.) You have a deep love of the land, from your Denmark days. [...]

[...] I could tell you much about Joseph and Denmark, but I would not divulge the circumstances in which he was so unfortunately involved.

(Seth had more to say about my life in Denmark in the 1600’s, although nothing factual or involving dates, etc. [...]

[...] Now some of these jewels, as well as the money, went for expeditions that you do not realize were adopted at the time, having to do with commerce and ships sent to Africa; and this interest had to do with my later life when I was involved with the oregano [as a spice merchant in Denmark, in the 1600’s]. [...]

[...] I have been a spice merchant in Denmark, where I knew Ruburt and Joseph. [...]

Forest, Denmark. [...]

[...] I take the term old landowner as another of Seth’s references to my life in Denmark in the 1600’s; at that time I owned much land.)

[...] You may see Denmark. [...]

[...] The barn episode, taking place in the town of Triev, Denmark, involved Jane, Bill, Seth and me.