“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

“As I was getting ready for bed after our last Seth session, I suddenly wondered about Atlantis. Then from Seth, mentally, I thought, I got the information that Atlantis, as it’s come down to us in myth and story, was actually a composite of three civilizations. Atlantis is a myth in response to a truth, then, I suppose. Next I got that Plato picked up the Atlantis material himself, psychically — he didn’t get it the way he said he did. I never ask Seth about Atlantis; I’m afraid the cultish ideas connected with it turned me off long ago.”

(In his dialogues Timaeus and Critias, the Greek philosopher Plato [427?–347? B.C.] described how the fabled island continent of Atlantis sank beneath the ocean west of the Pillars of Hercules — the Strait of Gibraltar — some 12,000 years previously. Looking backward in time, Plato heard the story of Atlantis from his maternal uncle, Critias the Younger, who was told about it by his father, Critias the Elder, who heard about it through the works of the Athenian statesman and lawgiver, Solon, who had lived two centuries earlier [c. 640–559 B.C.]; and Solon got the story of Atlantis from Egyptian priests, who got it from ———? Whether Atlantis actually existed in historic terms, its location, the time of its suggested demise, and so forth, are of course points strongly contested by scholars, scientists, and others.

(A note added later: Seth himself had some things to say about Atlantis in the 742nd session for Section 6; the session also contains excerpts from the Atlantis material he delivered a month or so after finishing Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality. Without giving away any “secrets,” I can write that on both occasions Seth discussed the subject in conjunction with his postulates about ideals, myths, religion, probabilities, and the simultaneous nature of time.)

(Any specific associations that might have brought the Atlantis information to mind were hidden from Jane, though neither of us had been reading or talking about it. We were left thinking that the general tone of Seth’s material early in the session, especially in his references to such ideas as “historical sequences” and “alternate realities,” might have served as a trigger.

(The questions I referred to concern the fact that once in The Seth Material and nine times in Seth Speaks, by my count, Seth spoke of Atlantis as being in our historical past. He did so this evening also, of course, when he remarked at 10:59 that our “ideas of Atlantis are partially composed of future memories” — thus leaving room for past manifestations. Seth’s theory of simultaneous time, which can encompass the notion of future probabilities projected backward into an apparent past, for instance, leaves great leeway for the interpretation of events or questions, however, and makes the idea of contradiction posed by an Atlantis in the past and one in the future too simple as an explanation. At any given “time,” depending on whatever information he’s given previously, Jane could just as easily quote Seth as placing Atlantis in our historic past, or in a probable past, present, or future — or all four “places” at once, for that matter. [...]

(I read to Jane the few paragraphs of material Seth had given on Atlantis. [...] I’ll have to admit that we cringe a bit when Seth talks about cultish concepts like Atlantis. [...] From these remarks it’s easy to see that we feel much more comfortable with the ideas about Atlantis that Seth advanced in this session. [...]

It carries also, however, the imprint of your fears, for the tales say that Atlantis was destroyed. [...] Beside this, however, many civilizations have come and gone in somewhat the same manner, and the “myth” [of Atlantis] is based somewhat then on physical fact in your terms.¹⁰

[...] Seth has connected himself with Atlantis only once, but he did so very definitely; from the 588th session for Chapter 22 of Seth Speaks: “I was … born in Atlantis.” [...]

[...] They originated from the time of Atlantis. [...] This race had to do with the origin of Atlantis. The messages were put into words and language and written down at the time of Atlantis, but after that they were handed down by word of mouth.

[...] (Pause.) In those terms — and, again, this is important — in those terms only, he appeared at the time of Atlantis, but the records were destroyed and forgotten except in the memory of a few who survived.

[...] Once in Atlantis, and once in the Christ story as it has come down to you in all of its distortions. [...]

(“Seth, did Atlantis ever exist?”)

(“Did Atlantis ever exist?”)

(“Is it a lost country like Atlantis?”)

(Long pause.) The unknown reality, dash — Many of you, I know, would like to find in this book answers pertaining to Atlantis, the Bermuda Triangle, UFO’s³, and many other such questions. [...] By far the greater questions, however, are those pertaining to the unknown reality of the psyche, and those that relate to the kind of being who perceives in one way or another an Atlantis, a Bermuda Triangle, a UFO — for in greater terms, until you ask deeper questions about yourselves, these other experiences will remain mysterious. [...]

[...] “I’ve got the nostalgic, uneasy feeling that he’s going to wind up the book soon,” she said, “especially after listening to that material just before the Atlantis stuff: I didn’t feel that way when I had the session, but I do now. [...]

When I consider those (Atlantis, UFO’s, and so forth) and other such matters, it will be from a much different perspective. [...]

There, I lived in the land people called Atlantis in your past. The Atlantis, however, as it is known in myth and pseudo-fact, is a psychic structure from the future that sheds its light backward into the past, and illuminates not one but several past cultures, which taken together, become in your terms a conglomerate Atlantis.

[...] Atlantis is as real as tomorrow is—and that is a loaded statement.

The third time involved Atlantis. The first time I mentioned with the epidemiclike disaster, was 14 centuries after Atlantis. [...]

There are effects, not as yet ascertained by your scientists, that appear in such areas: effects that were known however at the time of Atlantis, and also utilized by the Lumanians. [...]

In Atlantis there were those who utilized this knowledge, accelerating certain thoughts through concentration, emphasizing certain feelings so as to send them through these coordination points. [...]

(A note: According to Seth, the Lumanians were the second of a group of three highly technological civilizations that existed on our planet long before the time of Atlantis. [...]

From the 742nd session in Section 6: “Atlantis is a land that you want to inhabit, appearing in your literature, your dreams, and your fantasies, serving as an impetus for development … It carries also, however, the imprint of your fears, for the tales say that Atlantis was destroyed. [...] Beside this, however, many civilizations have come and gone in somewhat the same manner, and the “myth” [of Atlantis] is based somewhat then on physical fact in your terms.”

[...] Jane said that the “information” Seth had for us concerned Atlantis. She was quite surprised, since Atlantis is a subject sort of suspect to her because of the Edgar Cayce connotations, etc.)

(Jane also came through with material about Atlantis right after the 708th session was held, less than two weeks ago; see Appendix 14. We’d described that episode briefly in ESP class the night before this [711th] session was held — so had our doing so caused her second Atlantis pickup? But it’s also quite interesting to note that on both occasions Jane tuned in to data on Atlantis within hours after Seth had discussed ideas involving alternate realities.)

“4. Again I received information on Atlantis, only to forget it right away. [...]

[...] “But I assume Seth would have said a lot more about things like UFO’s, Atlantis and reincarnation if I’d let him.... I replied that it hardly mattered, that the time element entered in, that we’d still want material on the subjects we were interested in, that Atlantis was “way down the list.” [...]

7. Just as legend has it that the continent of Atlantis lay in the Atlantic Ocean between Europe/Africa and the Americas, so the great land of Mu (the Motherland) is said to have existed in the vast Pacific Ocean between the Americas and Asia. [...] For some Atlantis material and references in Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality, see Appendix 14.

[...] Instead of pointing out to you, as in earthly travel booklets, the locations of art galleries and museums, they will direct you to the Akashic Records.⁶ Instead of leading you to the archaeological sites of your world (intently), and its great ruins of previous civilizations, they will tell you how to find Atlantis and Mu⁷ and other times in your past.

[...] Say, for example, a particular entity has reincarnations in the fourteenth century, [in] 3 B.C., in the year A.D. 260, and in the time of Atlantis. [...]

[...] And as Ruburt told you earlier you were involved with a group before the time of Atlantis and you have been together often. [...]

Now: Ancient Rome exists, and so does Egypt and Atlantis. [...]

“I got unclear glimpses of material on Atlantis that I didn’t really get well enough to note down, and about Christianity, as both representing certain (other?) kinds of overlays and as examples of master events.

(9:28.) On your planet they were involved in three particular civilizations long before the time of Atlantis; when, in fact, your planet itself was in a somewhat different position.

“He was involved in scientific endeavors both in Atlantis and Egypt, but he had no desire to continue those pursuits now. [...]

[...] So far we have run across very few priests, and no one else who lived in Atlantis.)