“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

2. See Note 1 for Session 731.

1. Her dreaming self, which had provided a comfortable fabric or framework.

2. Her intrusive or “library” self — not Seth. (The library connotations are briefly referred to below. Seth also touches upon them at session’s end.)

We will call your working framework, Framework 1 for purposes of discussion, and this higher framework, Framework 2. In Framework 1, time must be allowed for the body to respond, physical time. In Framework 2, and in the terms of Framework 1’s understanding, such body work is not really necessary, since the body itself has nothing wrong with it except the application of beliefs.

The whole idea of the release of muscles, joints, the physical procedure, involves necessary methods and procedures while you are operating in Framework 1, and there you always are looking for the necessary quite vital evidence of improvement. [...] In Framework 2, there is nothing wrong with the body, again. [...] In that framework you deal with mental patterns, beliefs, and emotions. [...] There, you are so confident of the truth that your beliefs form reality that you need not check the body at every point to see how it is reacting, for you know it will respond as completely to the new suggestions as it did to the old, even though you recognize that practically speaking some time might be involved in Framework 2’s time.

The process of recovery that you have chosen, therefore, exists in Framework 2, though you are between both frameworks now, operationally speaking. You are reaching for Framework 2, while doing all you can in Framework 1.

So keep Framework 1 for working purposes, but become more and more aware of Framework 2. [...]

To Ruburt that is taken for granted—for there he operates extraordinarily well, mixing and merging the realities of Frameworks 1 and 2. The practical results of course appear in Framework 1, while the real creativity takes place in Framework 2. [...]

(9:45.) Now let us look at Framework 2. [...] That freedom comes from Framework 2, as does the great creativity it makes possible. So in certain terms everyone exists in Framework 2. Many people, however, live out their lives, practically speaking, in Framework 1. [...]

[...] This must be done however in Framework 2—in other words, in quiet moments when you recognize when you are dealing at another level, so that you feel no contradiction with Ruburt’s Framework 1 behavior. Such thoughts will be received by Ruburt in Framework 2, and will then, with his present intent, begin to alter Framework 1 through direct action.

He has been trying too hard to some extent in Framework 1, where the spontaneity of motion in Framework 2 will allow for the more or less spontaneous accomplishment of detailed motion in Framework 1. I want to emphasize the importance of the improvements that are taking place in Framework 1. [...]

Framework 1, to some extent or another, however, is always influenced by Framework 2. [...] Very little effort, there, comparatively speaking, has an effect here in Framework 1—that is, a small amount of effort in Framework 2 can result in extraordinary work done in Framework 2, and with a foreshortened time effect.

In Framework 2 the mind affects the physical brain in a more complete and effective manner than usual, and can spark images, thoughts, or correlations that exist in a context outside of the time that is happening in Framework 1. Time happens at a certain regulated rate, then, obviously, in Framework 1. [...]

It comes naturally to him, and even done in Framework 1’s limited manner, it is beneficial. [...] Work done in Framework 2, however, is out of all proportion to the effort expended. [...]

[...] The suggestions took hold, uniting Frameworks 1 and 2.

If you keep Framework 2 in mind, much of these stages can be vastly minimized, and the work with hypnosis that I suggested gives you such a method of inserting data, here, that accelerates motion in Framework 2, and greatly cuts down the time and effort involved in Framework 1. [...]

OCTOBER 1, 1977  9:33 PM SATURDAY

[...] He allowed himself no leeway, or very little, and in that framework the body was limited but predictable.

Now that old framework is shunted aside. [...]

With that understood, my material comes from beyond Framework 2. Creative material in general, however, has its origin in Framework 2, and when it is perceived in Framework 1, to some extent or another it connects the perceiver to that other source. [...]

[...] In Framework 1 his recovery is coming along, and yet the ease and quickness of that recovery, again—and again—could be increased, and should be, by greater activity in Framework 2. [...]

If you think of Ruburt’s normal flexibility as a creative endeavor, then automatically and easily, Ruburt first of all, and you, will find your creative abilities coming to the fore in that direction, bringing about results that are far quicker, easier, and executed in such a manner that Framework 2 adds immeasurably to that area of your lives.

[...] I suggest therefore that each of you, privately or together, open your pathways to Framework 2, requesting simply that further insights will be given you—and so they will be.

(Then, in a private session held on the evening of September 17, 1977, Seth came through with a very exciting concept called “Framework 1 and Framework 2.” [...] Briefly and very simply, Seth maintains that Framework 2, or inner reality, contains the creative source from which we form all events, and that by the proper focusing of attention we can draw from that vast subjective medium everything we need for a constructive, positive life in Framework 1, or physical reality. We’ve already made known to Seth our desires that he go into his Frameworks 1 and 2 material much more extensively in Mass Events, since those concepts are so closely involved with the individual and collective experiences surrounding the lives of everyone.³

3. I should also note that Seth has made one short, rather mysterious reference to the existence of Frameworks 3 and 4. Two days after he’d first talked about his concept of Frameworks 1 and 2, he came through with the following statement in another private session. Jane and I have yet to ask him to elaborate upon it: “There is, incidentally, a Framework 3 and a Framework 4, in the terms of our discussion — but all such labels are, again, only for the sake of explanation. [...]

(Since the 806th session was held 10 weeks ago [on July 30], then, I’ve worked steadily on Volume 2 of “Unknown.” [...] Over the telephone three days later, Tam suggested that Jane do a children’s book, or one for “readers of all ages,” based on her dream about Emir;² the next day he called again, this time to give her the delightful news that he’d accepted James for publication.

[...] Jane and I considered combining that hypothetical book with Mass Events, but figured out that the resulting volume would almost surely be too long; longer even than Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality, which in our opinion is bulky enough.

[...] If however you understand what I am saying about Frameworks 1 and 2, then you can express and release that desire fully and without fear, knowing that the meanings or the details—the way—will be found in Framework 2 to bring about the desired results.

I am trying to give you different kinds of examples, showing how work is practically done in Framework 2, that then appears in Framework 1 as physical events.

You must remember that there are no impediments in Framework 2, and therefore that all seeming impediments in Framework 1 will be dissolved.

[...] Somehow the two incidents described, involving Rusty and Hal, and Carol and Fred, had served to impress upon me the validity of Seth’s ideas about Frameworks 1 and 2 in ways that the intellectual understanding of those concepts alone hadn’t done. [...] It seems that we can put the concepts of the frameworks to use in all areas of daily life, reinforce longtime goals, etc.

Paul’s activities over the weekend, yours, the time of your call, the fact that he did have the time today, when ordinarily he would not—all of these issues were juggled in Framework 2, to give you, now, the best possible solution, given the conditions in Framework 1, with the desires and beliefs involved.

[...] I’d say we both lost much confidence in the idea of Frameworks 1 and 2 that evening; I still feel that way to some degree; at the same time Jane has felt better. [...]

[...] That belief will always bring the best possible developments from Framework 2. [...] You should both help reinforce each other’s beliefs, in the actuality of Framework 2, and in the safety in which your existence is couched. [...]

[...] In many ways, we found the situation to be quite similar to that involving the recent visits of Carol and Fred, from Canada, and of Hal and Rusty, from Lancaster, Pennsylvania—in that it seemed the necessary inner workings to bring about the ideal situation had been carried out in Framework 2. [...]

The mental patterns are all-important, yet you see you have initiated some new ones creatively, using both Frameworks 1 and 2. [...] This signals what you want into Framework 2, and those activities will indeed be done better. [...]

[...] That is why your suggestions of today are so vital, stating that you do have faith that Ruburt’s condition is now in the process of being healed in Framework 2, and that the results will show in Framework 1. It is important that you realize that the healing is now taking place in Framework 2 whether or not you see immediate results in any given day or not. [...]

[...] Lately I’ve been suggesting to Jane that when she finds herself hassling something she reminds herself that she has “a simple, profound faith that whatever needs to be done for an improvement in my health can take place in Framework 2. There are no impediments in Framework 2. Its creative workings there can show themselves in Framework 1, in my improved physical condition. [...]

(In recent days we’ve had several conversations about Frameworks 1 and 2, and these have apparently begun to show results. I think the suggestions about the two frameworks that we’ve worked out are very close to the suggestions that Seth implied we should use in the hypnosis experiments.

It is, therefore, quite to everyone’s advantage that Framework 2 is not neutral. Faith in a creative, fulfilling, desired end, sustained faith, literally draws from Framework 2 all of the necessary ingredients, all of the elements however staggering in number, arranges all the details, and then inserts into Framework 1 the impulses, dreams, chance meetings, motivations, or whatever is necessary so that the desired end then falls into place as a completed pattern.

[...] I mentioned two questions: 1. [...] It sounded very much like another instance of the workings of Framework 2; 2. [...]

True spontaneity however comes directly from Framework 2, and behind it are endless patterns of orderliness and complexity that are beyond your conscious Framework 1 comprehension. [...]

[...] In spite of his own conscious lack of knowledge, he was brought to operate according to the information available in Framework 2, though he was not aware of it. [...] The lives and events of all those involved with his trip—the neighbors, the children, and so forth—all of those issues were arranged in Framework 2, so that while the events seemed most unpleasant, they were highly beneficial.

[...] You must believe that in Framework 2 all of the necessary procedures involved in his normal walking are now happening, and believe that improvements and obvious states of that process will occur in Framework 1. The evidence will appear in Framework 1 as you believe it. [...]

(10:41.) If your goals fit in with overall natural purposes, you can do anything at all with your consciousness, while still maintaining ordinary contact in Framework 1. (Whispering:) I suggest that perhaps once a day in as creatively playful a way as possible, without trying too hard, in naps or when you are reading your statements, or anytime, to simply try to get the feeling of Framework 2.

The fact that you even sent books to artists and art institutions shows that you have changed your attitudes in Framework 1, thereby opening resources in Framework 2 that did not exist, practically speaking, earlier. [...]

Your statements (of suggestion re Frameworks 1 and 2) are excellent, and should be read over.

[...] (Long pause.) The fact is that the processes necessary to the desired end are instantly put into action in Framework 2. There is immediate response in Framework 1, though it may not be apparent because the conscious mind is not always equipped to recognize significances that are outside its usual context.

[...] In most such instance, however, the inner work has been progressing in Framework 2, and suddenly emerges in Framework 1. [...]

[...] His brother did not know that the urban renewal gentleman was in that particular restaurant where the two might meet, and until the meeting did occur nothing showed in Framework 1, though much was occurring in Framework 2. [...]

(1. [...] Did this have Framework 2 connotations? [...]

I hope to go into the ways in which computations are made in Framework 2, and how they interact with your world. The body of course exists in Framework 2 also, or it could not exist in Framework 1 at all. You are in constant touch with Framework 2, then. [...]

[...] In Framework 2, as mentioned, existence is also organized in a completely different fashion than you are used to. In that Framework, the best possible overall conditions for growth are available. [...] In Framework 2, therefore, the nature of each individual actively seeks out its own greatest potential, in the world of Framework 1, practically speaking, in the world where time and space are realities.

Ruburt was correct: your spontaneous creative self dwells in Framework 2. [...] There, automatically, computations are made so that you will meet, in Framework 1, with the necessary opportunities, situations, or whatever it is that your circumstances require.

[...] The desire to walk, released and expressed, again automatically triggers in Framework 2 all of the necessary conditions. The hints and clues then appear in Framework 1, and you build upon those significances.

[...] It was as real in Framework 2 as a dish or an apple. [...] Ruburt’s dream had motion also, rolling, say, off the edge of Framework 2 into Framework 1, where lo and behold it changes its form and becomes a book.

[...] Framework 2 provides an energy as vital as any given you at birth, and that energy constantly renews the body. [...] Within the framework of physical reality, then, granting the necessity for death, the body has renewing qualities that come to it from Framework 2. The cells of your body are immersed in Framework 2’s reality. [...]

The spontaneous self, the creative self, is also immersed in Framework 2, and the creative conscious mind springs from there also, even though its focus must of necessity be in Framework 1’s world of space and time.

Now: in somewhat the same way, Ruburt’s more or less newly optimistic thoughts are inserted, say, in the opposite direction, into Framework 2, where then they find their best creative form: in this case they roll into Framework 1 as increased mobility.

Since the nature of Framework 1 constantly flows into it from Framework 2, then Framework 2 is responsible for the shapes, forms, the behavior, the potentials of nature as you know it. When you are working with Framework 2 you are indeed working with nature in the most basic way. [...]

[...] Some people throughout their lives merge the two Frameworks unconsciously in a childlike manner. Others begin early to concentrate in Framework 1, so that Framework 2 goes more and more out of focus. Because you are natural, however, your existence is couched in Framework 2, and to some extent you are even saved at times from your own beliefs because additional insights or solutions are directly inserted into your mind in the dream state, or in other moments of the day.

Nature’s source, in the terms in which we have been speaking, comes from Framework 2. There, all of nature’s true potentials lie ready to be actualized according to the circumstances and conditions, the needs and desires, of the natural creature in Framework 1. [...]

Framework 2, again, in a way magnifies your intent. [...] Framework 2 is a powerhouse from which physical energy springs. [...]

I want to emphasize that Framework 2 keeps track of connections beyond your conscious knowledge, and can make computations in the twinkling of an eye. I would also I like him to give suggestions before sleep that in one way or another during the dream state your knowledge of Framework 2 will be increased. [...]

As far as your sales are concerned, trust Framework 2 to know exactly where and when the sales should be accelerated, and in what fashions, and do not specify particular books. [...]

Continue to do your Framework 2 approaches. [...]

(This evening I finished Appendix 18 for Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality, and Jane read it. [...]

[...] Jane had no questions for Seth other than her usual desire that he continue his material on Frameworks 1 and 2. [...]

You have agreed that Framework 2 exists, that it is helpful. [...] Ruburt fears at times he cannot impress Framework 2 properly, and becomes impatient with himself. [...]

[...] They had no idea of faith in the terms of which we are speaking, yet in Framework 2 their desires came about—and not as a result of detective work.

In Framework 2 Ruburt’s normal walking is coming about in the same fashion, only you have far more clues to which still to some extent you close your eyes, as our hypothetical friends did when they lived on the same street without knowing it.

Your doubts and fears have their effect, but they do not connect with Framework 2 as securely as faith does, for they do not fit in with the overall, curious and open, courageous elements characteristic of Framework 2’s activities. Comparatively speaking, a small number of clearly felt connections with Framework 2 can undo a year’s doubts. [...]

[...] I suggested that she forego the session, but once again she said she wanted to get something on Framework 2, etc. [...]

[...] I want to point out the efficiency of faith when you feel it, so take advantage of those moments when you feel faith strong in yourself, for at such times you connect with Framework 2 most securely.

[...] In Framework 2 those freer associative patterns are everywhere potent. [...] The organization of Framework 2 is then highly associative.

All of that is known in Framework 2. [...] They automatically pull to you what you need from Framework 2, drawing out all of the associations that you need in order to have certain events occur.

[...] You use Framework 2 beautifully, both of you, in that regard. Your intents insert plans for action in Framework 2. [...]

(A note: I don’t really understand why any sort of Framework 2 connection should arise involving us and Spain, however—the question arose as I typed the rest of the session after writing the notes on page 110-111. [...] Why is Framework 2 offering us these events?)