“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

(This material was given us by Seth at the end of the session for May 11/70 —the 527th; and is deleted from the regular record.

(There followed, here, two predictions related to Jane’s forthcoming book, The Seth Material. [...]

(“Good evening, Seth, and thank you very much. [...]

[...] She said she felt “something” go out to me from her body while Seth paused during his delivery... [...]

(Attached is more of her own material that “came” to her. [...] It’s excellent material, as Seth said, and is a continuation of that she received on February 6; see the end of the last deleted session [for February 17].

[...] And one that Jane and I soon became aware of even on that first very limited tour we took to help publicize The Seth Material.)

(I intend to now begin compiling a list of questions for Seth that grow out of his recent sessions—hence his remark above about such a list. [...] This list can also be used as a guide to refer us back to the body of material from which any particular quote is taken.)

[...] Simply, I thought it would be a good idea if Seth would tell us about what good things we’ve managed to accomplish through the years as far as Jane’s symptoms go. [...]

(In earlier deleted material, Seth told us that Jane’s slower physical motions since the publication of The Seth Material was, in part, caused by her desire to slow down to give me a chance to catch up to her own success, etc., through my painting.)

(I connected my symptoms also with the creed, mentioned in the notes proceeding the undeleted material for this session. As stated this creed grew out of the last, 584th session for May 3, 1971, Seth Speaks, pages 321 and 322, where Seth discussed the ego’s fear of being swamped by strong creative abilities, etc. [...]

[...] Jane has already learned that she doesn’t want to do merely psychic, Seth books, like the Edgar Cayce series, for instance—from her own work on the creed. [...] It doesn’t really matter that the Seth material is excellent, etc. [...]

(This material is deleted from the 585th session for May 12, 1971. Here are a few details of my own cold-like symptoms which began on Tuesday night, May 4, and which Seth discusses below. [...]

(We’ve held only three private, or deleted, sessions since Seth came through with the last regular one [the 885th] almost six weeks ago. I just wish I could present those sessions here, for in them Seth gave us much valuable information—not only about ourselves [including Jane’s somewhat impaired physical condition, her “stiffness”], but about the myriad interchanges occurring constantly between our inner and outer realities, or Frameworks 1 and 2, as he calls them. Some of that framework material is personal, but much more of it is general.

3. Jane gave Seth’s partial list of the inner senses in Chapter Nineteen of The Seth Material, which was published back in 1970.

[...] After giving some material for Jane, Seth ended the session at 10:32 P.M. “I had no idea he was going to do it that way,” Jane said. [...]

1. Since according to Seth something like a basic religious awareness has always been with mankind, Seth here indicates a few historical and mythological signposts of that intuitive understanding.

[...] That was my first thought when Seth told us that in ancient times certain people had “lived for several centuries.” [...] Jane wasn’t upset by Seth’s remark, and I could appreciate the humorous aspects of my own initial reactions—yet in all of the years he’s been giving us material, Seth has never before made a reference to what seems like impossible longevities.

Both of us thought that the long-lived individuals postulated by Seth had existed outside of the Biblical framework, however, and in truth far earlier historically. “Seth saying that makes perfect sense to me. It doesn’t bother me,” Jane said when I asked her what she thought of Seth’s material. [...]

Tonight, Seth suggested that “portions of this session can be appended to the book,” meaning Dreams, but I found it easier to offer most of his generalized material verbatim while eliminating his information on one of my dreams.)

(Four months ago I wrote in Note 1 for Session 885 that through a series of misunderstandings the people at Ankh-Hermes, a publishing company in Holland, had violated their contract with Prentice-Hall by issuing a condensed translation of Seth Speaks. [...] Now Tam has just forwarded to us correspondence showing that Ankh-Hermes will do this—the new publishing date for Seth Spreekt is still uncertain, however.

(Although this is a private session that Jane and I are filing separately from “regular” material, we’re also presenting it in Mass Events because of the many insights Seth offers into individual and mass events in general, and into our personal realities in particular. In fact, without those qualities of ours that Seth touches upon this evening, I doubt that the Seth books — indeed, even the sessions themselves — would exist. So in that sense this session contains more of those insights into the how and why of the Seth material that we’re always searching for. [...]

(Yet she easily agreed that this evening’s session, whether private or not, cast much light on the Seth material as a whole, adding depths of understanding and background information. [...]

[...] “But right now I’m just waiting,” she said impatiently at 9:40, after we’d been ready for Seth to come through since 9:25. [...] I want to be Seth or myself — one thing or the other, maybe….”

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

[...] She has been doing very well on her book on dreams recently; this afternoon she remarked that it was going so well that she wondered where the material was coming from. Seth spoke on the integration of our personalities also in the 228th session; the material grew out of his material on the poetry book Jane produced so effortlessly. Our thought is that the dream book material is also appearing in the same way. According to Seth we are just beginning to use our creative abilities.

(Seth’s material above could explain the strange malaise she has been aware of in recent days, and we believe prompted Seth to call for the time off in the first place, in the 250th session.

[...] Seth cut the session short, and after the five witnesses had left Jane was physically sick to her stomach three successive times. [...] Later Jane told me she had very little memory of what Seth had said, even in the very strong voice; this is unusual for her.)

[...] Jane said Seth had surprised her by asking for the envelope. This was definitely Seth’s doing, she said, and he asked out of politeness.

[...] We had guests the following Friday evening, and as Jane described the multiple-channel effects to them, she realized that she was tuning into some of Seth’s backlog of data about peer groups and the need to conform. Seth hadn’t actually given us the material during Wednesday’s session, nor did he now — instead Jane verbalized it on her own to some extent. [...]

(“Not since the sessions started [in 1963] have I felt that Seth’s material was so richly available. [...]

(Seth returned in a humorous manner at 10:37.) Now: Resume dictation. [...]

[...] Note the difference between Seth’s heading for this chapter and the one Jane gave before the session.)

[...] See Note 1 for an excerpt from the few short paragraphs of personal material Seth gave us before saying good night at 9:35 P.M. Then see Note 2 for what is surely a pretty wild idea of mine.)

This material very nicely supplements information I’d quoted from the second session Seth gave in his series on the magical approach to reality. [...]

[...] In deeper terms, of course, such a study would actually validate the sources of science and religion [just as it would confirm Seth’s material on dreams, incidentally!]. [...]

[...] The answers will show you the kind of material you look for most often. [...]

(I’d been commenting on her call tonight to a psychiatrist—Dr. Beahrs—who’d written her recently from Washington state, and of his informing her that another doctor out there is also using the Seth material ideas in dealing with her patients. [...] Yet, I added, the fact that the two medical people had discovered Seth was, in a small way, a sign that the material had at least managed some sort of transcendent movement. [...]

(Then in today’s mail Jane received a letter from another doctor, as well as from a professor of mathematics – also signs that the Seth material was capable of wider appeal. [...] Then Jane dictated the words quoted above, saying Seth would probably cover them in tonight’s session. [...]

(It’s my hunch that Seth’s New Year’s resolutions are perhaps the most potent material we could get, provided we keep them in mind as time passes. [...]

[...] This would be a sign of the spontaneous change Seth mentioned in a late session. [...]

[...] He came across The Seth Material, saw similarities in Jane’s and his experiences, and came here to see if she or Seth could explain the phenomenon. There are points of correlation, of course, only Jane is presented not with just a voice but with an entire personality, Seth, who then writes books while she is in an altered state of consciousness. So she and Dick were highly interested in what Seth would say.

(Note that Seth endorsed Jane’s theory of Aspects. [...] In it she will explore — among other things — the nature, validity, and sources of such personalities as Seth, and the “intrusion” of intuitional or revelatory material. [...]

[...] Dick had also visited us in late August, when Seth had Chapter One of this book under way.

[...] Dick recorded it and is to send us a transcript, so later we’ll be able to add a few excerpts from that material to this session.

[...] She said she thought Seth interrupted the material on John’s daughter, which Seth intended as another display of telepathy, because he realized the hour was late and the material too long and involved.)

[...] He has also been the subject of some of Seth’s material. [...]

(Seth delivered this material in a very amused manner. [...]

(Again, see the 199th session, in which Seth’s information on drug companies in Minneapolis is confirmed by John. John now laughed at Seth/Jane’s amusing reference to an affair.

Soon, you see, you will all be able to read the Seth material. [...] You set up barriers and gates and limitations, and the material demands your high intellectual focus. [...]

[...] Leading you, I hope, sweetly and gently up the path that I want you to follow, and broadening your ideas so that you will be able to read the regular Seth material and follow it. [...]

(Class discussed whether Seth had been here before.)

(There was discussion with Maureen as to Seth’s reality.)

5. All in Volume 1: Note 1 for Session 698 contains quotations from the dream material Seth gave in the 92nd session for September 28, 1964. Then see the equally interesting information on dreams in Session 699; I especially like Seth’s statement that “In a way, one remembered dream can be compared to a psychological photograph….” Jane’s poem, My Dreaming Self, is presented in the notes following that session, along with references to other dream material.

[...] I was tempted to ask Seth to explain his idea of what good milk was like, and in what life [or lives] he’d enjoyed such a potion, but I didn’t want to interrupt the flow of the material. [...]

(Seth spent the next six minutes or so giving some personal material for Jane. [...]

7. See the 710th session for Seth’s material on dreams, and the “snapshots” the conscious mind can learn to take during out-of-body travel.

(Before the session I mentioned the question I kept in mind for Seth, concerning what the Sinful Self may have learned since this last series of sessions was started. I said it was essential that we communicate to that personification [named by Seth for convenience’s sake only] that its performance was quite destructive to Jane, and that it must release its hold. [...] All of these points could be subsumed under the one broad question that I wanted Seth to go into when he’d finished with the Prentice-Hall material.)

(Jane expected Seth to continue with his Prentice-Hall material tonight, when I asked if she had any questions. [...]

[...] She remembered Seth’s material about her statement of ability and intent. [...]

[...] Make Rob ill, or contaminate his feelings towards Mass Events and Seth’s latest book: [See last PM Seth session, which Rob is typing as I write this.]”

[...] “If we’d had any inkling of what we were getting into with the Seth material, I’d never have done it,” Jane said. She meant that she wouldn’t have become associated with “the cheap psychic field,” not that she’d have given up working with the Seth material. [...] I asked her just how one could go about speaking for a personality like Seth, yet remain aloof from all of the psychic playing going on around us. [...]

(Sometimes I become a bit puzzled as I prepare Seth’s material for publication. [...] I do not like to change Seth’s information, and almost always avoid doing so.)

[...] She told me that Seth had changed the beginning of the session because of her reactions to the mail this noon, but that finally he’d gotten into some of the material she’d picked up from him today, and written down. Seth hadn’t covered her notes about caveman art, however; she’d especially looked forward to his comments on that subject.

[...] But there are many ramifications here, and it’s obvious that studying the Seth material is hardly the only way to explore reality. [...]

(Yesterday marked the beginning of Jane’s third week home from the hospital, and lately I’ve been trying to gently encourage her to begin a series of private sessions in an effort to learn what we can about the whole hospital-health-establishment belief system, and our part in it through and with the Seth material. I was eager to get Jane started on a program of self-therapy through the Seth material in order to help her counter—or at least supplement—the standard rigid medical framework we’ve been encountering for the last month, or since she went into the hospital on February 26, 1982. [...]

[...] Not Seth trances, by the way. [...] I have yet to type that material, but will start it after finishing this session.

(A note: Jane has mentioned several times since returning home that Seth may dictate a biography of her—presumably including her hospital experiences, etc. [...] “Every so often I get ideas about it,” she said, but not from Seth, at least yet.... [...]

[...] The arthritis diagnosis, Jane said, would be the only one the medical profession could offer, with its very limited insights and viewpoint—whereas Seth has insisted all along that she didn’t have arthritis per se. [...] Equally important, too was Seth’s idea that Jane no longer needed to try to be “the perfect self.” [...]

Perhaps it’s been remiss on our parts, but Jane and I haven’t concerned ourselves with any connections her Seth may have with ancient Seths. We don’t believe such relationships exist on any kind of personalized basis, although someday we’ll ask Seth to comment here. We think the name of Jane’s Seth came about through much more pragmatic needs. In Chapter 1 of The Seth Material, Jane quoted Seth-to-be from the 4th session for December 8, 1963, as that personality came through on the Ouija board (which we’d used to initiate these sessions): “You may call me whatever you choose. I call myself Seth. [...] Once Seth gave us a name by which to call him, we simply began using it. I’m sure that at the time Jane had no conscious knowledge about Egyptian, Hebrew, or even Christian origins or uses connected with the name, Seth.

[...] The 32 people crowded into  our living room enjoyed rich, active, loud, and even profane exchanges among themselves, with Jane, and with Seth. “Fuck you, Seth!” one girl screamed — which daunted that worthy not at all: Class members hardly agree with Seth or anyone else all of the time. [...] She also took time to sing very delicately in Sumari, in contrast to Seth’s powerful deliveries. [...] We’re to get a transcript of the evening’s Seth material at next week’s class.*)

6. About Seth’s reference to the myths connected with his name: Set, or Seth, was an Egyptian god of evil (with an animal’s head) whose complicated origins could, it’s thought, reach back in antiquity to at least 7500 B.C. In Judaism, of course, Seth was the third son of Adam and Eve, after Cain and Abel (Genesis 4 and 5). (As one correspondent wrote us: “Seth is also a Hebrew name meaning ‘appointed’ — i.e., the appointed one.”) However, some very early priestly genealogies omit Cain and Abel, and consider Seth as the oldest son of Adam; in the second century A.D., for instance, the Sethites, who were members of a little-known Gnostic sect, thought of Seth, the son of Adam, as the Messiah. Seth also shows up in writings of the ancient occult religious philosophy, the cabala, which was originated by certain Jewish rabbis who sought to interpret the scriptures through numerical values; the soul of Seth is seen as infusing Moses; he was to reappear as the Messiah….

(Jane also came through with material about Atlantis right after the 708th session was held, less than two weeks ago; see Appendix 14. [...] But it’s also quite interesting to note that on both occasions Jane tuned in to data on Atlantis within hours after Seth had discussed ideas involving alternate realities.)

[...] Seth told Rob that he’d seen only part of the room, described the rest of it and gave further details about Dick’s English life. The session lasted until 11:15 when Rob, not Seth, got tired, and suggested that we stop for the night. Seth said, Sleepy time is no crime. Now I am no poet, and you know it. Rob laughed, because Seth likes to tease me about my poetry.

[...] When he typed up Seth’s material on the first inner sense, though, he tried a simple deliberate experiment. [...]

(Seth’s preference here, incidentally, is the direct opposite of my own feeling on the matter. He uses emotional inflections delivering the material that greatly add to the meaning of the words themselves, however, and he may have had this in mind. [...]

[...] A woman’s slumber is, after all, a private and sacred thing. Seth said this with a dry sense of humor, then added, See how prim that last sentence would sound without the lively inflection I managed to give to Ruburt’s voice? [...] The material was coming through from her own entity.

[...] I speculated about my painting of the Italian woman, as I call her, and about a passage I read recently in Seth Speaks; in it, Seth had mentioned that he’d been a black in Ethiopia. Perhaps, I suggested to Jane, we could get some material on his life then.

[...] There followed a rather complicated discussion between us about the idea of questions for Seth—why I seemed to have them, but Jane seldom did. Much of Seth’s material to follow these notes deals with the topics of our discussion. [...]

[...] Your specific questions, however, also serve to give necessary ribs to the delivery of the material, so that many aspects are covered, and details not ignored. The two of you together then add to the entire psychological structure, and keep the delivery of the material in an excellent overall balance.

This balance is to a large extent responsible for the fact that the material reaches so many people, and your own joint characteristics in that regard are more obvious to your readers than to yourselves. The entire scope of the material of course reflects your joint questions—but Ruburt’s are often unformed, dealing with intuitive issues that he does not trust to verbalization.