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9. At once Seth’s material reminded me of a novel about dolphins that Jane worked on in 1963. [...] We hadn’t realized it at the time, of course, but it embodied some of the ideas Seth was to enlarge upon in his own material. Jane had time to show her manuscript to one publisher — who rejected it — before the Seth material got under way. [...]

And added later: Also in that session, Seth describes how he must “disentangle concepts” from their patterns in order to relate them through Jane. His material on this will be given in an appendix for Session 711, in Volume 2 of “Unknown” Reality. In that appendix I assemble from various sessions information on the complex relationships involving Jane-Ruburt-Seth (and also Rob-Joseph).

7. Just a week ago, in the 686th session, I asked Seth to comment on our ancient origins, but without getting an answer. [...] Now we plan to ask Seth to develop his man-animal material soon, adding more specifics and including the probabilities involved.

3. This little note fits in here for two reasons: Jane’s pause, and Seth’s discussion of our kind of time. Here’s what I wrote at 9:55 in the 24th session for February 10, 1964: “Jane reports that when she pauses for Seth during a delivery, she can sense the whole concept of the subject being discussed. Subjectively, it appears to ‘hang over her.’ Since on those occasions it’s too much to handle at once, however, she feels Seth withdrawing it, to release it to her a little at a time in the form of connected words.”

In class yesterday evening, Seth first came through with some very earthy material that’s presented as Appendix 24. Then Jane read her notes on strands of consciousness, which — I can add later — also found their way into Chapter 12 of Politics. Seth soon returned in class with the following comments; he referred to Jane’s ideas mainly, yet as he talked I began to understand my experience with my father and his after-death situation as I perceived it.

[...] “Maybe Seth will talk about our own things instead of giving dictation — your material on your father [which I received this past Sunday evening], or what you got on your mother this afternoon. [...]

(Jane’s material on strands of consciousness² had actually developed because of my experience involving my father while I was in an altered state of consciousness. That episode had upset me to some degree, but Jane’s discussion of the subject in Politics, plus a few comments Seth made in ESP class last night, helped me put the affair in a more objective light.

[...] Then Jane, speaking for Seth, delivered the following material in a most emphatic manner. [...]

(During break we quickly looked through the early sessions to see if we could establish the year of Seth’s birth. [...] Jane and I asked many questions about this kind of material in the beginning sessions, but as the material began to unfold such questions were pushed aside. Seth has said at various times during the year that we can bring such information up to date, but it seems that we do not get around to it. [...]

[...] Note that the date of Seth’s birth, given as 1486, is probably wrong. [...] From material given in various sessions we think the date of Seth’s death, given as 1655, is more likely to be correct. If Seth had been born in 1586 he would have been 69 at his death in 1655. [...]

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[...] I have notes on the proceedings, and will include them in the record should Seth ever discuss them at some point in the future. Seth was not involved in Tuesday evening’s activities in any way.

5. Seth’s concept of the moment point is implicit in his material as I quote it in Note 1 for this session. Also see the 514th session in Chapter 2 of Seth Speaks, and the 668th session in Chapter 19 of Personal Reality.

(Now Seth came through with half a page of material for Jane, then wound up the evening’s work with this joking comment:)

(Jane has often told me that usually on such nighttime occasions she doesn’t feel Seth’s presence or hear his voice. Instead she’s just aware of the material “running through her.”)

See also the 453rd session for December 4, 1968, in the Appendix of The Seth Material.

(Seth’s reference to her material on plants concerned some short humorous essays she’d started writing for her own amusement a couple of days ago, in response to some new ideas. [...] If nothing else, she said now, the ideas could find their way into Seth’s material — or else they’d originated in Seth material that was innate within her to start with.)

(Jane had said before the 846th session, which she held a week ago, that she wanted Seth “to get back to” book dictation, and Seth had obligingly given the heading for Chapter 7 at the end of the session. Yet in Monday night’s deleted 847th session that “energy personality essence,” as he calls himself, digressed once again from work on Mass Events to give us more excellent material on plant and animal consciousness. He also discussed such divergent topics as the wide variety of responses that his material generates in correspondents — and not all of those reactions are so favorable, I might add.

[...] On Friday, April 6, we received from the production department at Prentice-Hall the printer’s page proofs of the index for Seth’s Psyche, and on Saturday morning the proofs for Emir arrived from Eleanor Friede at Delacorte Press. [...]

[...] We talked about why people would choose to live in a region where it’s practically certain that such storms will materialize every year. [...]

(More inner-sense delineations are to come, according to Seth. With a list of the above categories in mind however, it is clear which senses and laws apply to the material in the sessions following, up until now. I have often meant to remind Seth to mention the specific senses along with the material under discussion but have not done so.

(Jane said the key point here is that although she had these images of her own, she did not give voice to them as part of Seth’s data; she was able to appreciate the difference. She said it is difficult for her to learn to use herself to the proper degree in interpreting Seth’s material, without interfering with it.

[...] Having finished one project, the ESP book, she was beginning a new venture, the book on the Seth material itself. [...]

(While she was giving Seth’s data, Jane said she had images of a childhood playground in Saratoga Springs, NY, with houses nearby, but recognized this as her own data and did not give it as Seth’s. She felt sure the test object had a northern, as versus a southern, background, but did not say so because Seth did not say so.

While Seth was producing this book, my own life was immeasurably enriched in unforeseen ways. Frequent psychedelic-type experiences paralleled Seth’s dictated material, and my own creative and psychic abilities developed into some entirely new areas.

The Sumari development constantly expanded as Seth produced this book. [...] In yet another state of consciousness, material is received that is supposed to represent remnants of ancient Speaker manuscripts. (These are also translated later.) Seth defines the Speakers as teachers, both physical and nonphysical, who constantly interpret and communicate inner knowledge through the ages. [...]

To me, the Seth Material is no longer a continuing manuscript of fascinating theories to be carefully judged against reality. [...]

Seth often uses episodes from our lives as specific examples of larger issues, and our experiences with the flood served as a starting point for his discussion of personal beliefs and disasters. In several other instances he also used our life situation as his source material — an intriguing turnabout.

It is unfortunate that the displacement in material occurred. [...] I believe, in fact, that Ruburt’s student will be able to collaborate some of that material.

([John and I:] “Good evening, Seth.”)

I had some pertinent remarks to make this evening, and since Philip (Seth’s entity name for John Bradley) is indeed a friend, I shall feel free to make them, although they are somewhat of a personal nature, and directed to you and our reluctant medium.

[...] His doubts have held back the overall quality of our material, since I was not often allowed to come through completely enough.

Seth tells us, of course, that prehuman communication and human language and speech have originated in rhythmic patterns again and again, since in the far past our planet has seen the development of a number of presently unknown civilizations. See, for example, his material on reincarnational civilizations and the Lumanians in Chapter 15 of Seth Speaks. In Volume 1 of “Unknown” Reality, see his discussion on ancient man in the 702nd session, as well as Jane’s own material on the “innumerable species of man-in-the-making” in Appendix 6.

2. In Chapter 5 of Personal Reality, sessions 623–25 all contain Seth material on inner sound, light, and electromagnetic structures of the body that ordinarily we do not perceive. From the 624th session, for example: “I told you that thoughts are translated into this inner sound, but thoughts always attempt to materialize themselves also. [...]

4. This material reminds me of Seth in the 681st session in Volume 1: “The deeper explanations, however [in this case of probabilities], demand a further expansion of ideas of consciousness … It is not so much a matter of Ruburt’s vocabulary, incidentally, since even a specialized scientific one would only present these ideas in its own distorted fashion. [...]

Certain presentations in Appendix 18 contain information from Seth about the distortive effects caused by words as he communicates through Jane. Review his excerpts from the 27th session for February 1964: “It is difficult for me to have to string out this material in words….”

5. See my account of the Brenner dream, Jane’s interpretation of it, and Seth’s material on it, in the August 11 session.

In this session is material that will indeed allow Ruburt to get out of the present situation, but we will continue the discussion at our next session. I have given you some such material before, as I intend to give you shortly. With your own recent experiences, however, the material will be more meaningful and significant now, so that you can indeed put it this time to better use, and I will also be somewhat more specific. [...]

1. Seth is the “energy personality essence” Jane speaks for while in a trance or dissociated state. Since he calls Jane by the male-oriented name of her larger or whole self, “Ruburt,” it follows that Seth also calls her “he,” “his,” and “him.”

“Then, in a private session held on the evening of September 17, 1977, Seth came through with a very exciting concept called ‘Framework 1 and Framework 2.’ Jane and I were so struck by the practical, far-reaching implications of this proposition that we began a concerted effort to put it to use in daily life. Briefly and very simply, Seth maintains that Framework 2, or inner reality, contains the creative source from which we form all events, and that by the proper focusing of attention we can draw from that vast subjective medium everything we need for a constructive, positive life in Framework 1, or physical reality.”

3. After this session, I was rather surprised when Jane told me that the Jonestown tragedy was an emotionally charged subject for her, and that Seth knew it. [...] Involved also are her adamant feelings against having the Seth material used as the basis for any kind of cult, with herself as its leader. Hence, she’s continually examining Seth’s revelatory material — and her own — with very critical eyes to make sure she isn’t “a self-deluded nut leading people astray.” [...] See Seth’s material on evolution and fundamentalism in Session 829.

[...] The mass deaths at Jonestown (in November 1978) took place during our long layoff from book dictation, but Seth began discussing the affair almost at once in our private material, as Jane described in her own portion of the opening notes for Session 831. Now she told me that Seth introduced the subject in that manner so that later she’d be more at ease dealing with it for Mass Events.

[...] Seth promptly came through with two lines of encouraging material for her. [...]

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

When I came to, I found myself scrawling what was obviously meant as the title of that odd batch of notes: The Physical Universe As Idea Construction. Later the Seth Material would develop those ideas, but I didn’t know that at the time. In one of the early sessions Seth said that this had been his first attempt to contact me. I only know that if I’d begun speaking for Seth that night, I would have been terrified.

Seth had a purpose, all right: to deliver the material he’s been giving us twice a week, now, like clockwork for the past five years. [...] While this was already our fourth session at the board, it was really our first Seth session.

On December 8, then, Seth introduced himself. [...] For this reason I’ll devote some space to the early sessions so that you can become acquainted with the material as Seth gave it, and see him emerge as a personality in his own right.

[...] I’m certain that the affair set off the emergence of my own unsuspected “psychic” abilities and acted as a trigger for the production of the Seth Material.

[...] Note that the final paragraph of Seth’s material is incomplete— and that was Seth’s second version, after I’d asked him to repeat portions of it. [...]

[...] We’ve been reading sessions—usually the late ones—each day, and these serve as beneficial suggestions, of course, especially in light of Seth’s material in Sunday’s session. [...]

[...] She’d picked up a few suggestions from Seth during the day—among them that we should just forget words like “arthritis.” [...]

[...] I will at a later date have more to say concerning the ways the body utilizes such drugs—very interesting material, but not for this moment. [...]

[...] Seth has yet to explain what he means by “preparing” our new house for us. During break we tried to give the Pipers a brief resume of what the Seth material involves. [...]

(Before the session, Jane had remarked that she wished Seth could, or would, let her know whether witnesses were coming. If she is able to let Seth so inform her in advance, it would be very convenient, to say the least.)

The material should be read from the beginning, with the exception of personal material which has been delivered this evening. [...]

I will now close the session, somewhat early by a few moments or so, and again I would suggest that your visitors read as much material as possible. They are of course welcome to any session, but a familiarity with the material will add to the benefit that can be received by witnessing a live session; and indeed, I can be a lively one. [...]

[...] Then today I opened a package that contained a book of trance material similar to Seth’s. I guess I’m supposed to say thanks and that it’s great, to the publisher and the medium. Actually, I think those two people removed their material — which talks about All That Is — too far from its human source, its everyday contact with human personality, and thus produced just another psychic book. [...]

[...] Valid enough, perhaps, but lacking original insight and individuality like the Seth material has.

(“Thank you, Seth,” I said at 4:32 p.m. His advice was as excellent as always. [...] I told Jane I thought the question had been triggered by the session material today, especially that concerning Leonard.)

(“Good afternoon, Seth.”

(Over two more pages of material for Patty followed. After that, with my right hand practically numb, I put my notebook aside and joined Patty and Seth in an impromptu discussion. Seth’s energy and vitality seemed to be inexhaustible — his pace even speeded up. [...]

[...] We met Patty in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in September, 1970, while we were on tour for Jane’s own book, The Seth Material.

(Patty enthusiastically told us that Seth’s material on the various stages of consciousness, in the 569th and 570th sessions in Chapter Seventeen, closely agreed with her recent studies. [...]

(A note: Patty read the late chapters of Seth’s book but Jane did not. The two of them discussed the material, though.)

(It will be recalled that in the 68th session, page 221, in relation to Bill’s projected trip, Seth had stated that he saw Bill meeting an older man “with prickly hair,” and that he saw a rowboat with a symbol on it. An older man and a boat both are mentioned above, and when Bill returns from Provincetown, Cape Cod, which is indeed on the ocean, it will be interesting to compare Seth’s material with what Bill actually saw and/or did.

Each consciousness, besides the material structure or material form, also possesses a psychological structure that exists in a depth and solidity in another perspective which the outer senses do no perceive. [...]

In all cases however, we would have material structure of one sort or another, created by consciousness according to its ability to perceive, manipulate and construct an inner psychological structure, in this case an idea, into material form.

(“Good evening, Seth.”)

But that simple statement also means that our dream work relative to Jane’s challenges has often been powerfully abetted by Seth in many of the 347 completely private and 159 partially private sessions he’s given us since November 1965. Much of the fascinating and informative material in which Seth discussed various aspects of Jane’s symptoms is generalized enough for publication, and could help others, but because of its very intense personal connotations it’s a project we haven’t started yet. (Not that I haven’t presented excerpts from a few of those sessions in other Seth books.)

Even if those sessions can’t be quoted in these essays because of the obvious space limitations, I can note that Jane and Seth each continued to develop the themes already laid down in the sessions that have been presented. What they really signify for the long term is (as I wrote in the essay for April 16) a continuing program of intense study for Jane and me—and yes, for Seth, too—as we seek to better understand our chosen commitments in our present physical lives. [...] The material in the sessions is exhilarating, painful, enlightening, perceptive, frustrating, and maddening by turn—and sometimes, it seems, all of those things at once. [...] The anger I’d felt at Jane and myself when she began recording her sinful-self material (see the essay for April 16) has long since dissipated. [...]

Of course these essays reflect our particular chosen stances in life, both with and without the Seth material. I know that to some we’re sure to have appeared slow in putting to use much of the material, but in a most basic respect we’re way ahead in the situation: If we hadn’t almost instantaneously begun to encourage the flow of information from Seth when Jane started to express it some 18 years ago, and to write it down, then it wouldn’t even exist—at least in its present form. [...]

[...] Since I can no longer work for hours at a time on the Seth books, or with the Seth material, I’m training myself to “put out” copy in concentrated bursts of energy that are usually of an hour’s duration, say. [...]

(Seth’s reference to “illustrated Seth material” stems from ideas I’ve mentioned to Jane recently. [...]

There is no doubt Ruburt has made a breakthrough—and so have you, in terms of your ideas—for what I call illustrated Seth material. [...]

[...] Seth said that when the body began to recover, it would be an overall development. [...]

(Jane didn’t know whether she wanted a session tonight or not, but I suggested she have at least a short one, so Seth could say something about her moving ability.)

(Lorraine was not consciously aware of the questions she has evidently been considering, according to Seth, although she said she is aware of the ideas she has about the Seth material.

(It is of interest here to note that in the 134th session Seth also announced that I had painted a likeness of him. [...] I have not asked Seth about the discrepancy yet of course, but Jane feels they both represent different facets of the Seth entity or personality.)

I am taking the opportunity to speak concerning these matters, since I had already decided not to cover any complicated material for our session. [...] Our material in general however can now expand; and indeed, though not always, some extra dimensions and perspectives may be added to our sessions.

[...] Seth/ Jane was highly amused while delivering the above paragraph. Strangely, as far as I recall no one had ever mentioned the possibility of Seth laughing, myself included.)