“Seth material” search engine (Jane Roberts)

A note here: Ruburt may try the psychological time experiments twenty minutes daily; and indeed yes, the time of the day should be uniform. [...] And indeed, for your own edification your life in general will be much more comfortable within what I would call a short time; though to you this may be two years, before a noticeable change is apparent.

Your whole concept of time is built about your own capacity for perceiving action; as this capacity for perceiving action grows, so indeed do the dimensions of time grow. Conceivably therefore one moment of your time would indeed be experienced by the whole self as centuries.

[...] I mentioned that value fulfillment seems, and is to some small degree, dependent upon time as you know it, but this merely reflects upon the manner in which you perceive time, and in no way alters the simultaneous nature of value fulfillment, which grows in dimension but is not dependent upon time as you know it.

(Of course Jane and I have for some time been aware of the possible differences in meaning between Seth and ourselves, over interpretation of the word “soon”. Sometimes the situation has been rather humorous, other times not. [...]

Time is one of your most obvious camouflages, and the study of time will lead you in a fairly direct manner from the camouflaged physical self to the inner self, which you ignore. Even now your psychologists speak of the difference between physical time, by which you set your clocks, and psychological time.

Outer physical time is a complete camouflage, unnecessary basically on your plane; but you have made it seem necessary because of your refusal to admit the inner self as part of your whole personality, and therefore you have not been able to utilize psychological time to its fullest advantage on your plane. Psychological time as I have said is a natural pathway, part of an inner sense, that was meant as an easy access from the inner to the outer world and back again. [...]

You will I am sure see the similarity now between this inner, alone sort of psychological time, experienced very often in waking hours, and the sense of time experienced in dreams. [...]

Psychological time so-called belongs to the inner self, that is to the mind. [...]

(Trying psychological time on Wednesday, 6/24, 8:00 PM, I had no results. On the same day at 7:30 PM during psychological time, Jane once again heard within the static sound described on page 167. At the time she was thinking about calling the owner of the gallery where she works on business this coming Friday. [...]

(While trying psychological time I had the following experiences:

(While trying psychological time Jane had the following experiences:

(At the exact time the session was due Monday, Jane, Del, Midge and I were visiting our landlord and his wife on their farm in Pine City. [...] She gave none; later Jane said she hadn’t the slightest inkling of Seth’s presence as session time passed. [...]

[...] I have been in my time quite reprobate. [...] Your psychological time experiments should go better next week.

(While trying psychological time I had the following rather mild experiences. [...]

You know that you cannot perceive with the outer senses the pulsations of energy as they form this chair; because you cannot perceive these pulsations, the chair appears durable, a part of your time and space, and continuous in time and space.

There has been a need for discipline, which is now somewhat being achieved, and past interests which have this time solidified into a more coherent purpose. We will at another time go more further into these particular matters.

(From Jane’s psychological time notebook:

(From my psychological time notebook:

[...] Actually she slept but the last few minutes of the allotted time. [...]

(She had no idea of the material for the session as the time for it approached. [...]

Human self-consciousness existed in psychological time, and in inner ‘time’ long before you, as a species, constructed it. [...]

[...] And another word about our material; Ruburt’s mind is an excellent one and well given to serve our ends at this time. There is a reciprocal agreement here, a give and take, quite different from your friend’s idea of psychological invasion.

In a dream, I have said, you can experience many days while no corresponding amount of physical time passes. [...] Now, condensed time is the time felt by the entity, while any of its given personalities live on a plane of physical materialization. [...]

Belgium in 1632, and our Phillip, in a rather sensational case for the times, actually brought this husband to a village trial — a particularly unusual occurence at that time. [...]

(While trying psychological time I had the following three experiences. [...]

[...] These experiences with psychological time have become so intriguing and numerous that Jane and I devised a method to keep a list of them, in chronological order for quick reference.

[...] Since this material was so interesting we decided to wait and see if Seth would take up our own personal experiences with psychological time later in this session. [...]

Creation occurs, again, most often through value fulfillment, which exists in a dimension having nothing to do with your space and time; and in the deepest sense creation as a whole, originally, if you’ll excuse the term, had nothing to do with either your space or your time, and the so-called birth of your known outer universe came long after in the story of creation and value fulfillment.

(I have yet to resume psychological time study. I now have my dream notebook in full swing, and since I had more dreams on the order of the two already discussed by Seth, I had my dream notebook open on the table as session time approached, in case these dreams were used in the material.

[...] Jane has also begun the study of psychological time on a regular basis, but has nothing of note to report yet, beyond a few glimmerings.

The primary energy gestalt did not have a beginning in time, nor will it end in time. It is a result of an expansion, again, in terms of value fulfillment, an expansion that has nothing to do with either time or space as men conceive them.

[...] When beginnings and endings are spoken of, the implication is always there, that there must be but one reality, and that it must have a beginning in time and an ending in time.

Time to your dreaming self is much like ‘time’ to your waking inner self. The time concept in dreams may seem far different than your conception of time in the waking state when you have your eyes on the clock and are concerned with getting to some destination by, say, 12:15. But it is not so different from time in the waking state when you are sitting alone with your thoughts. Then, I am sure, you will see the similarity between this alone sort of inner psychological time, experienced often in waking hours, and the sense of time experienced often in a dream. [...]

[...] We later discovered, of course, the “inner senses” and “psychological time” had been discussed under different names in many ancient manuscripts. [...]

Psychological time belongs to the inner self, that is, to the mind. [...]

[...] Like other experiences of this nature, it was intrusive, in that it seemed to have no connection with what he was doing or thinking at the time.

In psychological time therefore it is at least possible that you can have some experience with other methods when you close off habitual methods of perception. [...]

The intellect forces you to interpret data in a highly specialized way for the use of the physical organism; and while adopted particularly because of the time structure, your kind of intellect only has value within your particular kind of time structure, and its type of logical thought is much slower and limiting. It moves at a snail’s pace along the line of consecutive time.

The emotional intellect for example is not time-oriented, and this alone makes no sense to the physical brain. It finds it highly difficult to assimilate any information not time-oriented, therefore it labels it as meaningless. [...]

[...] I suggest therefore that you hold six weeks of sessions as always at your regular time, then feel free to miss a week with my blessing and your own, and then begin another six-week schedule.

[...] However, I then remembered something that had happened sometime last week when I had also been trying psychological time, that I had forgotten. That time I had also turned the radio off, but then I kept on hearing music from it, in varying volume. [...]

(Tuesday, 6/16, and Wednesday, 6/17, I missed trying psychological time.

(Copy of Jane’s statement involving psychological time, of Thursday, June 18, 1964, from 10:00 to 10:30 AM.

(While trying psychological time I had the following experiences:

In fact, cotton soaked in this water, and applied upon the eyelids before psychological time experiments would be the most beneficial. [...] At some times the temperature of the water will be as low as 58 degrees Fahrenheit.

[...] 7/8, I missed trying psychological time. [...]

[...] Ruburt has been trying too hard lately with psychological time, and trying to make his subconscious function and focus, in the same manner that the conscious mind does.

[...] As session time approached she felt a little nervous, yet not very much. By 8:50 PM, Willy was once again prowling through the apartment, both alert and stealthy at the same time. [...]

[...] I have experienced it frequently during psychological time since then. [...]

[...] The music at times was literally deafening in volume, combined as it was with a large choir and a jazz band. [...]

(Jane also felt strong thrilling sensations at the jazz mass, saying they were like the sensations she attains during psy-time, that she calls her good state, and occasionally ecstasy.

[...] As she has done often lately, she spoke a good deal of the time while sitting forward in her rocker, her elbows resting on her knees, her head tipped down to some degree.)

(I missed trying psychological time on Wed. [...]

(While trying psychological time I had the following experiences:

(Jane: 7/15, 11:30 AM: While trying psychological time I began daydreaming about the house we plan to buy. [...]

[...] His job was not in jeopardy, but John was restless and needed changes; at the same time he felt he was not the stereotype personality his company demanded for district managers, which position would be the next step up for John in the drug company for which he worked. [...]

(While trying psychological time on Wednesday, September 9, 8:15 PM, I had, after reaching a pleasant state, the rather strange sensation of having my legs pulled or stretched, as though some force was trying to elongate them. [...] It had some duration also; I had plenty of time to lightly explore the sensation.

Now this is what you attempt when you experiment with psychological time, when your communication comes through the inner rather than the outer senses. [...]

(Seth began referring to mental enclosures, mental enzymes, etc., many many sessions ago, at the same time he began to give the information on the inner senses. By the time the 20th session was held these discussions of such material were in full swing.)

[...] It was the first time she could remember that any outside influences had made themselves felt while she was dictating.

[...] But in all times there is no boundary, generally speaking, that exists to separate one psychological unit from another. There are differences between psychological units, and you concentrate upon these differences. [...]

It is formed equally by those experiences which are purely subjective, and which exist only within the psychological time framework. [...]

[...] Much of the time she sat leaning forward with her head down somewhat. [...]

These characteristic responses have been built up through past existences, and because the self is not limited the core can at any time expand and project.

Your own experiments in psychological time have allowed you, to some extent, to experience within yourselves such unimpeded action. [...]

[...] With these exercises you are familiar, for in your psychological time the self is momentarily in connection with its more extensive portions.

[...] Jane had no idea of the material for the session before she began speaking, on time. [...]

It is advantageous to take our opportunity when possible at such times. [...]

[...] She laughed as she began, and this accompanied her remarks concerning her practice of psychological time. [...]

I still do suggest the fifteen minute limit that he has adopted for psychological time, until the end of the week. [...]

[...] Jane was this time more fully dissociated, she said. [...] As far as I can recall this is the first time an interruption of this kind has occurred during her dictation.

[...] The feeling lasted for some time. [...]

(The following recent notes are from Jane’s psychological time notebook.

At one time these two were brother and sister. At this time, 1602, in England, the man committed an act which put him greatly in his sister’s debt. [...] It was a time when such cruelty was indeed accepted, and sensitivity was hardly a way of life.

There was difficulty with the left foot at one time. There was at one time difficulty with the forefinger of the left hand.

Death came at one time from a knife wound. The involvement between the two personalities of the man and the woman at this time is a good one, as far as commitments previously in other lives is concerned. [...]

[...] When you do psychological time exercises, for in say, five moments, you can have experiences that completely escape your time-space continuum. [...]

You create times and places. [...] You all dwell in dimensions that know no place and no time, and so Ruburt is correct for when you ask me of places and times I answer you in terms of places and times, and when you know enough to ask me questions that do not have to do with places and times then you will understand more of your own identity, the nature of your existence and the abilities that are inherent within you. [...]

[...] Physically you believe that you are here and so you are here but other portions of your identity are in other places and other times, and I use those terms very loosely. They are only to make you happy because the words, times and places, have a meaning to you but in your basic reality you do not know times nor places. [...]

Now in dreams you open [sic], though not always, also escape and time is meaningless to you. [...] Now your astronauts cannot do this as yet in your time schedule and yet you can do it and when you return, no time has passed in physical terms. [...]